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    Charles Egan from talksport tweeted last night that KSE had alerted JP Morgan Chase, that they are ready to sell Arsenal after the collapse of the super league

    https://twitter.com/CharIesEgan/stat...190397953?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It was a pretty good statement, to be fair.

    It's just...I don't believe a word of it. Sure, they're sorry that so many fans basically told them to fuck off and that they would be withdrawing their custom, they care about the money potentially drying up. But that's all.

    And sure, you could say "well, it's not the players' fault, it's not Arteta's fault". And you'd be right. But it's not like the players care about us or the club either. It's all screwed.
    well you have to think about who 'they' are - i'm willing to bet there's some staff at the club who do care about its history and fans.

    as for Arteta and the players i don't think you can tar them all with the same brush - i suspect they all had their own thoughts, varying from "great i'll rake it in and don't have to play well" to "this is totally against what i think football's about"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It was a pretty good statement, to be fair.

    It's just...I don't believe a word of it. Sure, they're sorry that so many fans basically told them to fuck off and that they would be withdrawing their custom, they care about the money potentially drying up. But that's all.

    And sure, you could say "well, it's not the players' fault, it's not Arteta's fault". And you'd be right. But it's not like the players care about us or the club either. It's all screwed.
    Why don't you believe them? They are the official source.

    This is a rare moment in public life. It is very, very rare to see the sausage being made. Even rarer to walk in on the blood soaked butchers at work, stripped of their fancy suits and public relations entourage. This is what they look like in real life, not the fantasy life they set up for themselves and pay others to endorse.

    This reality is not confined to football. These people run the world (and ruin it), almost always using money stolen from the masses, a pound per consumer at a time.

    The ONLY thing they are scared of is when the masses wake up and unify in their condemnation. That's even rarer. But it should happen all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    so, it looks to me like Woodward and Perez called everyone up at the weekend and told them that the ESL was happening, Man U were in and if they didn't follow they'd be out in the cold

    so they had to issue statements in a hurry saying they were part of it

    that's why they hadn't time to talk to managers and players etc

    it was blackmail and the clubs all went for it (as would everton, burnley and any other po-faced bunch of hypocrits who've been publicly criticising it)

    that's why the Arsenal statement on Sunday was so perfunctory

    I'm not trying to give the Kroenkes an easy ride and tbh if their plan was always to get an ESL so they could not have to compete and just watch the money come in, they might now sell (although again we need to be careful what we wish for because we could have worse)

    but while it's easy to laugh at last night's statement from Arsenal, it reads better than a lot of those from other clubs (especially Levy's I'm pleased to say)

    after all, if they didn't apologise and say they made a mistake we'd be demanding they did just that wouldn't we?

    but it's a shame Arteta and the players weren't as vocal as Klopp, Henderson, Pep, KDB and others

    but Neville can truly eff off, he was part of a club that bullied and cheated its way to titles year after year

    so we've all had a really worrying 2-3 days while this played out, but at least we can know it won't be tried again for a long long time
    No, no, no, no, no. That's definitely not what happened. That's called a limited hangout and it is designed to save the arses of the plotters who haven't already resigned from various roles. Heap all the blame on the targets that have already been killed. The others walk away as abused victims who finally saw the light?

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit! Bullshit detectors going off everywhere. A cacophony. You'd have to be a total mug to believe any of that, and they'd have to think we are all total mugs to believe we'd believe such bullshit.

    No. These things are planned way in advance. Contracts, lawyers, accountants, organising the money, plus a thousand other moving parts. Nobody did anything at the last minute and none of them are innocent. Certainly none of them were coerced into sitting down months or years ago when this shit all started.

    No, we're not having their bullshit excuses. They tried to steal the game and keep it for themselves. Now they (and all like them) must be ejected from the game. People like Perez must be rooted out.

    Wenger drove me to tears of desperation with his unwillingness to leave the club and the structural damage he was doing daily, towards the end.

    But now he needs to be in charge of all of it because everyone trusts him to do the right thing. You just can't see Wenger at the heart of a (yes they do exist) conspiracy like this. He's the Elliott Ness of football, sometimes with a dodgy aim and a tendency to outstay his welcome, but whatever.

    He's the bloke for it and, having a think about it, I can't even come up with a name for his deputy. Who's another bloke in football that could be trusted? There must be somebody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    No, no, no, no, no. That's definitely not what happened. That's called a limited hangout and it is designed to save the arses of the plotters who haven't already resigned from various roles. Heap all the blame on the targets that have already been killed. The others walk away as abused victims who finally saw the light?

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit! Bullshit detectors going off everywhere. A cacophony. You'd have to be a total mug to believe any of that, and they'd have to think we are all total mugs to believe we'd believe such bullshit.

    No. These things are planned way in advance. Contracts, lawyers, accountants, organising the money, plus a thousand other moving parts. Nobody did anything at the last minute and none of them are innocent. Certainly none of them were coerced into sitting down months or years ago when this shit all started.

    No, we're not having their bullshit excuses. They tried to steal the game and keep it for themselves. Now they (and all like them) must be ejected from the game. People like Perez must be rooted out.

    Wenger drove me to tears of desperation with his unwillingness to leave the club and the structural damage he was doing daily, towards the end.

    But now he needs to be in charge of all of it because everyone trusts him to do the right thing. You just can't see Wenger at the heart of a (yes they do exist) conspiracy like this. He's the Elliott Ness of football, sometimes with a dodgy aim and a tendency to outstay his welcome, but whatever.

    He's the bloke for it and, having a think about it, I can't even come up with a name for his deputy. Who's another bloke in football that could be trusted? There must be somebody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post

    No. These things are planned way in advance. Contracts, lawyers, accountants, organising the money, plus a thousand other moving parts. Nobody did anything at the last minute and none of them are innocent. Certainly none of them were coerced into sitting down months or years ago when this shit all started.
    i get what you're saying but if there's all these contracts etc where are they now?

    how are the clubs all able to just walk away all of a sudden if they've all signed up after your months of clandestine planning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    shall we all turn up with a GW banner?
    A3 should suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Lol at the first comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Perez saying overnight that none of the clubs have actually left the super league and if they do, they will have to pay the penalty fees.


    It’ll be interesting to how Kronke plays that one. He really should be paying the penalty fee out of his own pocket but he wont of course. Teh club will pay it and then when we buy no one in the summer, blame it on that
    Is this like when Trump won the election?

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    Kroenke's apologised to Arteta apparently...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56845861

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