Maybe but conversely as I said to my arsenal supporting mate who thought Juventus would win, he was underestimating how rubbish this Juventus team is.Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
PSG, Barcelona, Bayern they’ll get hammered
Maybe but conversely as I said to my arsenal supporting mate who thought Juventus would win, he was underestimating how rubbish this Juventus team is.
PSG, Barcelona, Bayern they’ll get hammered
Hopefully you’re right!
I can’t think of any team winning the European cup for the first time that hadnt won its own domestic league within three or four years before hand. Let alone well over fifty.
Wednesday, 14th February
Porto v Liverpool, 19:45
Real Madrid v Paris Saint-Germain, 19:45
Sickening watching other English teams outperforming us in the CL, Wengers laughable comments about qualifying for the Cl for x consecutive years (glad he finally can't harp on about that anymore) was a nonsense because in how many of those years were we actually competitive.
Other sides that haven't been in it as long have looked far more convincing and progressed more than we have.
Wengers record in Europe is amateurish and embarrassing to be honest, all those years in Europe and not one success to show for it.
I find it equally sickening how the media are spaffing their load after Spurs got a draw in Turin against one of the most average Juve teams in living memory
I don’t remember us getting the same plaudits when we despatched a better Juve team with contemptuous ease on our way to the final
A final incidentally that Spurs won’t be making.
They've been in 2 of last 3 finals, can't be that average in fairness.
The European cup can be a bit of a lottery, Bayer Leverkusen made a final one year
2015 final they had Pogba and Vidal in their team
2017 final they got absolutely belted by Real Madrid and since then they sold their best defender in Bonucci
I watched them in the group stages this season not only did they get turned over by Barca (admittedly no shame in that) they struggled against Sporting Lisbon and Olympiakos
Got trashed at home to Lazio in Serie A
Don’t get me wrong Spurs have had a good CL season but that in no way makes them contenders.
If they play Real again they’d probably lose that tie, plus in terms of attacking threat Roma are a harder proposition than Juve, and that’s before we get to Bayern, City, Barcelona and PSG.
They can enjoy the plaudits but they won’t come close
Last edited by HCZ; 14-02-2018 at 10:22 AM.
Leverkusen was 15 years ago. Then you had Porto and Monaco 2 years later followed by Liverpool. Outliers that happened well over a decade ago, since then it's been dominated by the same faces so to make a final now takes some doing. I don't follow Juve so I'll take your word for it but it's not my definition of average and being spanked by Barcelona and Real Madrid can happen to anyone.
Average is a relative term, my point being that personnel wise this isn’t anywhere near being a great team.
They are better than Arsenal but that’s not exactly a high bar to set
It’s really no different in terms of quality to going to Chelsea and getting a draw which we have done twice this season and we are worse than at any time under Wengers tenure
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