The transfer news for the last day or two seems to indicate that RB are playing hardball over Sesko's price, while Gyokeres has turned down Man Ure plus at least one other club, and apparently very keen to sign for Arsenal and we can get him for a price we're prepared to pay
If we blow this there's no way back for Arteta or Berta
Originally Posted by Mac76
I find it interesting how, and I don’t preclude myself from this that we’ve allowed ourselves to be pinned into this Sesko vs Gyokeres narrative. I personally like what I see from Sesko (but if RB Leipzig are going to try and stiff us, or Sesko’s own representatives try and make unreasonable contract demands I’m happy to move on), I’m extremely reluctant to go for Gyokeres which has long been the case for me. It’s not worth restating why because we are at a point on here where I’m accused of simply being contrarian, just as I think a lot of people will dismiss any concern I present as a result of motivated reasoning. So it doesn’t get us anywhere.
If we were to sign Gyokeres I think it would only happen perhaps as a last minute change of tact, not getting anywhere with Sesko plus imminent likelihood of him moving to another club….because he is regarded whether people agree with that being the case or not distinctly as a backup option.
My point is that I’d personally hope that we weren’t so myopic to narrow our options to one of two choices anyhow (partly because I don’t want one of the players, and partly because I think that does give the selling club leverage over us).
It’s good to have a shortlist but equally I don’t think any of us wants to see a them or nothing approach. If presented with the option of Gyokeres or nothing it would probably just about land in favour of Gyokeres such is the dire need of a striker, but would be a close thing.
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; Yesterday at 01:46 PM.
It's not just the fee for Sesko that is the issue.
Apparently they want a release clause in his contract that means we cannot exceed 20% of the purchase price and now there is an issue with his excessive wage demands.
Honestly him & his agent are acting like he is the next Ronaldo or something.
I'm glad we look like we are moving on from him, if that is the case.
Last edited by KSE Comedy Club; Yesterday at 01:56 PM.
I agree if he becomes unobtainable and the result is we get Gyokeres it's a good result, but my concern is we will bugger about for too long and somone else swoops for Gyokeres
tbh Leipzig is doing us a favour, it's a bit like the Mudryk situation, in the end Arteta was forced to give up on him because Chelsea offered so much, and while Arteta was (completely wrongly it turns out) obsessed with him, we were much better off with Leo, Jorg and Kiwior
Goldbridge says we are readying an official bid for Gyokores soon
GoldbridgeGoldbridge says we are readying an official bid for Gyokores soon
I do like the guy genuinely as despite what’s claimed, he is a genuine United fan (although one it seems with a more realistic view of United’s situation). He’s probably not much more than a bog standard ITK with transfers
Well, they all are tbhGoldbridge
OK, although I may wait until I hear that from a more 'trustworthy' sourceGoldbridge says we are readying an official bid for Gyokores soon
does he have much of an inside track - I thought he just ranted at the camera during Utd games and made everyone laugh
I tend to be reserved on whether a transfer is happening or not until Ornstein reports it, given that hes a circle of access journalist so that if a club wants their fans or the media at large to know about they are either likely to sell a player or buy a player, they will contact him.
Fabrizio Romano thinks of himself in that way and I think he has some important club connections, I think he is a glorified ITK
Would definitely consider selling Martinelli if a decent offer came in. I like him because he’s the only direct forward we have and sometimes that’s a welcome change given how often we end up overplaying. However I just don’t see something special in him that suggests he could explode into something else here, I feel like he shrinks when he reaches the final third which is not a good look. Now I imagine that could change at a club like Bayern because they’re so dominant but what he’s doing for us is the only thing that matters here.
We shouldn’t be too sentimental with long serving players, City and Liverpool have sold big name players in the past (players better than Martinelli) and replaced them well. You don’t build and succeed by hanging on to players who’ve done ok but not really moved the needle for the team.
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