did we give Carlos Vela a proper chance?

[Power n Glory]

Wrong I didn't hate project youth, I do hate it as it's still going on, but that has been the odd talent that has come through (no more than any normal club which considering we put all our focus into this is shocking).

I'm p*ssed off we kept hold of the likes of Chamakh and Bendtner and got rid of him yes, it wouldn't be so bad if we signed players but clearly it's not something we do, we like to sit on our arses and make ridiculous excuses whilst every other club snaps up talented players all around us.

Project youth has been a huge waste of time. We pursued Vela and held off from buying proper strikers because Wenger wanted to wait on him. During the window, like what we're seeing now, when talking to the press he'd justify his summer inactivity by rattling off the amount of players we have in certain positions and Vela would get included in that bracket? 'I buy a striker, where do I play them'? If he'd have actually stood by Bendy, Vela and these players to this day, then I could at least understand the inactivity to an extent. But what really pisses me off is the fact that he's gotten rid of these players and there are new batch of players he's using as an excuse not to buy. There is no point in clearing up shit to pile more shit on top.

Sanogo is the new Vela and that's what's so infuriating. If we don't buy anyone in September and he talks up Sanogo, Gnarby and anyone else, if he talks that shit about his convictions and doing what's right for the club, not being dictated to by the press and fans, then someone needs to ask him about Vela, Djourou, Senderos, Denilson, Bendy, etc and go to town on him. What the heck happened with those players because his convictions lead him to believe hose players were the future of this club, yet he's gotten rid of them. He was wrong before, why is he right today? Why should we trust again?

[Özim]

The kid was played out of position and never got enough games in the first team anyway. It's hard to compare Vela with Ramsey in that regard because Ramsey would start game after game on the right or get subbed on. Ramsey even racked up a whole season playing in his favoured position a year before so he was given way more time to adapt even when he had back to back poor games, he'd never get dropped. Vela could score in the Carling Cup and play a good game but he'd never get a start in the first team following that game. That's got to mess with your confidence and then when you finally get 10 minutes to play and you look nervy or don't do enough in the game you may start trying to force things to happen as we saw last season with the Ox. If you don't speak up for yourself you will get left behind. Remember the story about Theo demanding and answer on why he's not starting games? It's not the way to develop players and why we have to send so many players on loan to get some bloody confidence.

Vela is currently playing on the right wing and that's where he should have played for us. No idea why Wenger does this. Left footers on the right and right footers on the left. It would make their lives so much easier.

Exactly right.

As for why Wenger does it, well he wants every player to play in alien positions for some reason, he's really clueless...there's not much he's good at these days, can't seemingly even pull off any decent transfers in 3 months.

[Özim]

Project youth has been a huge waste of time. We pursued Vela and held off from buying proper strikers because Wenger wanted to wait on him. During the window, like what we're seeing now, when talking to the press he'd justify his summer inactivity by rattling off the amount of players we have in certain positions and Vela would get included in that bracket? 'I buy a striker, where do I play them'? If he'd have actually stood by Bendy, Vela and these players to this day, then I could at least understand the inactivity to an extent. But what really pisses me off is the fact that he's gotten rid of these players and there are new batch of players he's using as an excuse not to buy. There is no point in clearing up shit to pile more shit on top.

Sanogo is the new Vela and that's what's so infuriating. If we don't buy anyone in September and he talks up Sanogo, Gnarby and anyone else, if he talks that shit about his convictions and doing what's right for the club, not being dictated to by the press and fans, then someone needs to ask him about Vela, Djourou, Senderos, Denilson, Bendy, etc and go to town on him. What the heck happened with those players because his convictions lead him to believe hose players were the future of this club, yet he's gotten rid of them. He was wrong before, why is he right today? Why should we trust again?

Again I agree, it has been a waste of time, it's been going on years and has heeded no rewards, sure there's been the odd talent here and there but in reality no more than any club not following a youth policy strategy and we've wasted a lot of money as well on signing them and wages (even if we have got some back in transfers on some players).

Noone ever asks him the right questions, no one ever points out the past seasons and what has actually happened, his former players and his broken promises, all we get is patronising BS from him about how it's hard to make transfers, players aren't available, sometimes 3 clubs are involved, how the media wanted him to sign English players and now they want foreign ones....he's just doesn't get it and worse doesn't care about the fans.

The day he leaves will be a happy one for me, I can't stand the way he conducts himself or tries to build a team (or not as may be the case).

[Dicks and chicks]

didn't give vela a proper chance nor campbell , even though they are both better than giroud

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Yes.

[mastermind84]

I was on Team Vela since 2005, so no Wumget did not give him a proper chance.

The 4-3-3 killed his progress at Arsenal. Vela is a big time talent that could have helped us and Wumget messed with his development.

Glad he is doing well at Sociedad and I am sure he will move on to a bigger club soon. Just hope its not in the premiership.

He is the only non-Arsenal player I still root for to do well.

[mastermind84]

The other issue with Vela was Mexico constantly calling him up for pointless friendlies. He would travel to the other part of the world to play a Friendly on Wednesday, and would have no chance to play on Saturday. He needed to establish himself at the club level first before he left.

His career took off after leaving Arsenal and taking a sabbatical from Mexico.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Did we give Vela a proper chance? Are we giving Campbell a proper chance?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Probably didnt give him a proper chance, but to be fair he doesn't seem like the kind of player we want at the club anyway. Apparently his attitude stinks....doesn't get picked for Mexico anymore, has created a playboy/party boy image for himself.

Joel Campbell I just don't get that, if Wenger doesn't rate him at all why not just send him out on loan....instead of bringing him into the first team squad.

[Penguin]

We didn't give Vela a 'proper chance' but that's not such a big deal. It happens all the time, and letting Vela go is hardly the worst of the lot. Just look at Ferguson letting Pogba slip through his fingers