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    I will reserve my judgment until August 31st, if we have beaten around the bush in the Market again then I think it's safe to say Wenger will never change. He's never felt heat like this before and if it still isn't enough to make him sit up and take note then nothing will. The guy is a legend and what he's done for the club will never, ever be taken away, however the expectation of landing a trophy is not unreasonable at all and I really feel as though he's becoming the biggest obstacle we need to clear before we can move forward again. I don't understand how someone with so much good in them can also be so flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    It is a good post but it's a strange response to my point which was about the level of disrespect shown to Wenger, not the questioning of him or thinking it's time for him to move on.
    Whilst Respect has to be earnt it can also be lost. Just because he had most fans respect a few years ago, it doesnt mean he's just gonna keep it.

    The respect for him has been on the wane for a while now.
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    On Football Manager, I manage Lewes FC, who came from the BSS, and who are now in League 1 after 3 seasons. I achieved this through a patient mixture of promising youth prospects and creating new managers at Barcelona and Man City who gave me hundreds of millions of pounds for dud players. After I'd made my fake manager, Shithead Loserface, retire from football, leaving these big clubs with no transfer kitty, they signed new managers to fill the void. Barcelona's first replacement was Arsene Wenger, who turned his back on Arsenal immediately, and Arsenal were left to sign Roberto Mancini as a replacement. The next time I temporarily took over Barcelona and made them buy a 34-yo fat, balding striker for £110m, Roberto Mancini declared his interest in becoming their new manager, prompting an angry response from the Arsenal fans who had put faith in him.

    The lesson here is that Barca want Arsene Wenger and Mancini is a cunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus! View Post
    Whilst Respect has to be earnt it can also be lost. Just because he had most fans respect a few years ago, it doesnt mean he's just gonna keep it.

    The respect for him has been on the wane for a while now.
    Well, like I said Clough ended up taking Forest down and he's still a legend for their fans.
    All Wenger's done is taken us from the top of the top 4 to the bottom. We're not in mid-table let alone fighting relegation. He's made some strange decisions, he's maddeningly stubborn and his inability to motivate the teams at time is depressing. But he's not done anything to deserve the level of disrespect he is shown on here.
    IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    It is a good post but it's a strange response to my point which was about the level of disrespect shown to Wenger, not the questioning of him or thinking it's time for him to move on.
    The thing is though, he's quite insulting at times, all the cr*p he comes out with, pointing the finger at he fans in some scenarios. He doesn't seem to be that bothered about the fans these days, his players, finances and his policies are seemingly all he cares about.

    He's incredibly patronising too and people never respond well to that, if he was more honest he might get a different reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    It is a good post but it's a strange response to my point which was about the level of disrespect shown to Wenger, not the questioning of him or thinking it's time for him to move on.
    Don't think there's many that disrespect him mate.

    But you do lose respect awfully quickly in this game....and let's not forget, that to a certain degree, he's playing with our own hard earned money. If someone turns around to you and says "shut up, you don't know what you're takling about, what do you know, be patient" when all you've seen over the last few years is an embarrassment; and you then have to walk into work / the pub / anywhere that knows you're a gooner, and get the fucking piss ripped out of you....don't you think resepct for such a man may well dwindle, despite all the good he's done for the club.

    You can't live on past glories forever. Why? Because if you're slowly breaking apart all that good work, because you're too stubborn to see the obvious, you will lose respect. Nobody respects a fool.

    I hope and pray (as we're stuck with Wenger for the time being) he pulls the pieces into place. I want him to succeed desperately, because, for all his failings these past years, I'd love to see the guy win something. Whatever you say about him, it's not like he's lazy...he works his bollocks off for the club. but he needs to be ruthless this summer. Make BIG changes. Change the attitude of the club from top to bottom. And until the fans see that happening, he's on a hiding to nothing I'm afraid.
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    The board consider my decision to let Steve Brooker (of Doncaster fame) go to Real Madrid for £100m to be an aberration. But they're the ones who went over my head and decided to take the decision into their own hands because the fee involved was so great.

    There's just no justice in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpgreg View Post
    The board consider my decision to let Steve Brooker (of Doncaster fame) go to Real Madrid for £100m to be an aberration. But they're the ones who went over my head and decided to take the decision into their own hands because the fee involved was so great.

    There's just no justice in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    Well, like I said Clough ended up taking Forest down and he's still a legend for their fans.
    All Wenger's done is taken us from the top of the top 4 to the bottom. We're not in mid-table let alone fighting relegation. He's made some strange decisions, he's maddeningly stubborn and his inability to motivate the teams at time is depressing. But he's not done anything to deserve the level of disrespect he is shown on here.
    IMO.
    Good post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    Well, like I said Clough ended up taking Forest down and he's still a legend for their fans.
    All Wenger's done is taken us from the top of the top 4 to the bottom. We're not in mid-table let alone fighting relegation. He's made some strange decisions, he's maddeningly stubborn and his inability to motivate the teams at time is depressing. But he's not done anything to deserve the level of disrespect he is shown on here.
    IMO.
    I think that is right. People often say Wenger out but dont offer a realistic alternative even if they offer one at all. He is still our must successful manager ever and while it is frustrating missing out at the end it is still true that apart from 3 or 4 clubs, all other clubs in the English leagues would love to have our 'problem'.

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