Who is ultimately responsible though??Or is responsible at every other club in the land apart from arsenal?Originally Posted by JonasTC
Who is ultimately responsible though??Or is responsible at every other club in the land apart from arsenal?
Must be the one who appointed Wenger then? Or the board who appointed Dein? Im not sure
The correct answer is anyone but Wenger
Poor bugger only gets paid 7 million quid a year to manage a football team. What do you expect a football manager to do- Set tactics, motivate players, play the best players in their best positions, get cover for weak positions in the team? You must be joking... A football managers job is to look worried and say how many % away we are from domination, how we are in the waiting period etc. Until he gets a pay raise of 100 billion dollars, we cannot point a twinkie at the manager.
Arsene Wenger
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
You need to relax.
Poor bugger only gets paid 7 million quid a year to manage a football team. What do you expect a football manager to do- Set tactics, motivate players, play the best players in their best positions, get cover for weak positions in the team? You must be joking... A football managers job is to look worried and say how many % away we are from domination, how we are in the waiting period etc. Until he gets a pay raise of 100 billion dollars, we cannot point a twinkie at the manager.
Arsene Wenger
Why though? As a fan on a MB, I think I'm entitled to feel frustrated about a sorry dismal showing by my team. I'm ranting and I think I have a god damn good reason to be..
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
Well for starters, he's paid in pounds and the dollar is in the toilet.
...what?
He means that because Wenger always qualifies for the CL, United aren't winning the CL because we are finishing 4th for sure.
Leaving aside all the laughable knee jerking we didn't see after the spuds game...
What actually went wrong today?
Wenger thought the outfield players could provide a threat and the midfield could play a balanced rather than defensive game. He was wrong. We are desperately weak up top and the midfielders let us down terribly with their sloppy play and lack of composure. Ox and Cazorla were particularly poor. It's forgiveable with Ox, a lot of pressure has been heaped on him but he's still learning. Except young players to have great days and awful days, it's normal. It's not forgiveable with Cazorla, he's supposed to be one of our top performers but increasingly he goes missing on the big days. He's lucky Ozil has been around to take the heat off him. So Wenger guilty of having faith in his players, his players guilty of bottling it and pissing on that faith - again.
Wenger thought we could play a high line/ mobile defence against an ageing and average chav front line. He was wrong and he sort of got unlucky too. Eto'o and Schurle are poor and average respectively but from time to time they can have a good game or good moments, Eto'o because it remains in his DNA and Schurle because statistics work like that. Today BOTH hit the jackpot. Even so, the defensive tactics were down to Wenger so he got that wrong. And he didn't change it until it was way too late and even the he brought the woeful Flamini one - more on him later. We still don't have an Adams figure, Adams would have said fuck this and changed things on the pitch. That needs to be Merts next year and he needs to be given the captaincy. No room for sentimentality, it's ridiculous our club captain spends his time on the bench rather than on the pitch. Kos is a brilliant follower, he's not a leader. He will follow the game plan all day long even when it's clearly not working.
Sagna and Gibbs just let the club down. Nothing much more to be said on them except the fact Sagna wants £100k a week is laughable. He had a chance to prove he was worth that today and failed as completely as it is possible to fail. Young blood needed in that position next year and don't spare the chequebook. A powerful, marauding full back is out there somewhere, we need to find him.
Our tactic of giving up huge amounts of space on the flanks has to stop immediately. We've been doing it for years and it has never, ever worked. We've been relying on pace to plug those holes, particularly from Gibbs and Kos. This is why Monreal, an okay defender in a more compact unit, gets so badly exposed in certain matches. This is why Robben had such a big influence (besides his horrible cheating) over the two legs for Bayern.
Arteta takes huge flak from fans. But he's supposed to be the central holding player who distributes to more mobile options. Fact is, we aren't mobile, there are no options. So Arteta's role is often reduced to retaining possession and because there are no options that possession goes sideways or backwards. He could try hollywood balls but that brings us to:
Giroud. Showed promised, had it all there for the taking. Blew it and now he has to pay the price. His character flaws have hurt us badly. He has to go in the summer. He's already proved he can play in this league, but he's also proved he can't handle the big time. No excuses can be made for him.
Rosicky 33 and given a new contract. Not a bad move in terms of retaining his experience but we need a young and dynamic understudy and eventual replacement. I assume that's Draxler.
Flamini - clueless. He wears his heart on his sleeve but has nothing in his boots. Always in the wrong place at the wrong time. You bring him on to keep things tight and he drifts forward. When you need discipline he's being booked or sent off. Football is not about charging around the place bellowing - that's useful if you are actually leading, but he's leading nothing. Have you noticed, nobody pays a blind bit of attention to his pitch theatrics. It's all noise. Proper defensive midfielder required, again don't spare the chequebook.
So Wenger must take some of the blame, but some of the players are twice as guilty. Not only was this a big game but it was a chance to repay the manager for some of that faith. Look what they did. It's appalling. Bottom line - they can't be trusted.
People have a go at Wilshere, but he wouldn't have laid down today like some of them did. Wilshere, Ramsey, and finally Walcott. Big misses. Ozil too once he gets the first season under his belt and the stupid arseholes who want red button miracles off his back. Sky TV fans - as bad a s any media hack.
Ches. Forgiven. He had a really bad day but it's a rarity. Some will now say get rid of him, I already saw some say they want Fabianski. Probably the same lot who slaughtered Fabs when he was getting settled.
Podolski. Wasting his talent. Either he has no clue what his role is supposed to be or he's taking a free ride. A player with his abilities should be making an impact. He's anonymous.
Everything was wrong today, not helped by that ludicrous ref. The scoreline will exaggerate the misery of it all. Nobody likes the fact that horrible cunt Mourinho (who showed himself up much more than we did today) can walk away and trumpet his hollow victory and the media will play along.
I just hope over the next few days our fans recover a bit of dignity - not just in terms of recovering from a bad defeat against a major rival, but also personal dignity that might prevent them posting fucking 1000 games videos one minute and then being a fucking media, spud, maureen style hater the next.
So we lost big against the big moneybags teams and the team that wouldn't release the striker we put up the money for and would have transformed our season. Shit happens. Deal with it and get over yourselves. Still in the cup and up until today with a few games to go we were in the hunt. Finances coming around and a demonstration we are prepared to spend big money on big players. A bit of context required please, some proportion. Rattles and dummies flying through the air is just as embarrassing as being beaten 6-0.
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