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    Ideally we could do with another CB, even if Vermaelen doesn't go. We got away with it last season, but I wouldn't want to risk going into another one with just 3 CBs again (especially coming off a WC summer)...

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    Underwhelming signing, don't remember him from Newcastle games and their defence was dire at times last season.

    Not really sure if he's any good or not, as for Deschamps, he decided to leave some very talented players behind which wasn't very logical at all and when they faced a Germany side who aren't that impressive they got knocked out, so I don't totally trust his judgment.

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    He's a massive downgrade on Sagna IMO. Debuchy probably is the better attacker now, but Sagna was so important for us defensively, he was a rock on that right hand side. His crossing was underrated too although he rarely had anything to aim at with the lack of movement from our forwards.

    Meh, there weren't many available established alternatives and it would have been riskier to buy someone who hadn't proven himself in a top league. If nothing else at least it buys us time to find the right long term player for the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    That's precisely why I think we should have tried harder to keep Sagna. Replacing a player like that is very difficult and I think Aurier represented at least the pretence of getting to his level one day. Whilst I think it's possible DeDouchey will improve, I don't think he will get to a great level beyond where he is or even that of Sagna's. Our target should have been somebody who is or had the potential to be at his level one day.

    I think we will be more than happy to sign the reserve keeper right at the deadline because he will be no great name or force in football. If Vermaelen leaves that will actually force our hand in terms of buying a CB so I'm sure the club will try hard not to let him go, but they will have their price.
    To be fair to the club and Wenger, by all reports we went to unprecedented lengths to try and retain Sagna and that was our first option. Offered substantial wages, a long deal (for a player at his age) and a nice signing fee apparently. It can't really be helped if City were prepared to continue to flout FFP and exploit their financial muscle to offer ridiculous wages. And that Sagna showing a brazen lack of ambition decided to join a club where he's going to predominately sit on the bench. Anyway, Wenger really must have identified something up with Aurier or that he really rates Bellerin, because as much as I like Jenks, I don't think he'll ever be first choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    He's a massive downgrade on Sagna IMO. Debuchy probably is the better attacker now, but Sagna was so important for us defensively, he was a rock on that right hand side. His crossing was underrated too although he rarely had anything to aim at with the lack of movement from our forwards.

    Meh, there weren't many available established alternatives and it would have been riskier to buy someone who hadn't proven himself in a top league. If nothing else at least it buys us time to find the right long term player for the position.
    I agree with you about him being a rock. Now we will have 2 weak sides at the back! But I think Debuchy might be an upgrade on Sagna going forward. We will see.

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    "Pass to Debuchy on the right hand side"



    Havent heard new info on this transfer for a few days but seems like its a cert. Guessing it will revealed at the new kit launch with Sanchez ().

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    To be fair to the club and Wenger, by all reports we went to unprecedented lengths to try and retain Sagna and that was our first option. Offered substantial wages, a long deal (for a player at his age) and a nice signing fee apparently. It can't really be helped if City were prepared to continue to flout FFP and exploit their financial muscle to offer ridiculous wages. And that Sagna showing a brazen lack of ambition decided to join a club where he's going to predominately sit on the bench. Anyway, Wenger really must have identified something up with Aurier or that he really rates Bellerin, because as much as I like Jenks, I don't think he'll ever be first choice.
    Fair points apart from Sagna showing a brazen lack of ambition. I disagree. He has a few years at the top left and he made a judgement call that we won't win the league or CL in that time.... Whether or not you agree with it or not, he has an argument. It is scarcely mentioned or remembered but Sagna was one of the players most unnerved and disappointed about the club's willingness to sell RvP to Manure.....and I'm not sure he ever really got over it. A lot of Arsenal fans didn't get or agree with it then and feel the same way now so it's hardly surprising if deep down it caused him deep consternation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    He's a massive downgrade on Sagna IMO. Debuchy probably is the better attacker now, but Sagna was so important for us defensively, he was a rock on that right hand side. His crossing was underrated too although he rarely had anything to aim at with the lack of movement from our forwards.

    Meh, there weren't many available established alternatives and it would have been riskier to buy someone who hadn't proven himself in a top league. If nothing else at least it buys us time to find the right long term player for the position.
    Debuchy is the French equivalent to Glen Johnson IMO. Debuchy is good going forward but is a horrible defender, always caught out of position, just generally very sloppy defensively.

    We will suffer Defensively, though I think he will add to our Offensive game. I am hoping he is a stop gap. Will be interesting to see how Clyne and Chambers develop at Southampton.

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    Why isn't he here yet? Are we penny pinching again?
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Announced tomorrow if what we read last week was anything to go by.

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