Match reaction - Norwich

[Niall_Quinn]

That’s what I don’t understand about Theo or the people around him? They can’t be focussed on football or concerned about his development considering how things have panned out. I’ve watched players of a similar age in a similar position with other clubs and they all made a decision to move on when it looked like their development hit a blank wall. What’s worse, he didn’t stick by his convictions on playing up front and talked his way out of playing that position. He’s wasted his career but finessed his way into £140k a week so maybe he’s not so pissed off.

Poor old Theo's paying the price of failure.

140K a week, fancy house, fancy car, fancy fuck buddy, gets to play footy every day with his mates. It can't be easy.

[Marc Overmars]

That’s what I don’t understand about Theo or the people around him? They can’t be focussed on football or concerned about his development considering how things have panned out. I’ve watched players of a similar age in a similar position with other clubs and they all made a decision to move on when it looked like their development hit a blank wall. What’s worse, he didn’t stick by his convictions on playing up front and talked his way out of playing that position. He’s wasted his career but finessed his way into £140k a week so maybe he’s not so pissed off.

He's never struck me as a particularly driven or hungry player. Made a song and dance about playing up front but clearly Wenger never fancied him there, so that should have been enough reason for him to leave years ago. Must be family related - settled in London with a big contract, easy life.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's never struck me as a particularly driven or hungry player. Made a song and dance about playing up front but clearly Wenger never fancied him there, so that should have been enough reason for him to leave years ago. Must be family related - settled in London with a big contract, easy life.

That striker song and dance routine was when he still hd some market value, his contract was up for renewal and the chavs were sniffing around. His market value is now zero if he wants to hang on to that 140K, so the striker thing has died a death. Ox gets shit for leaving but contrast and compare with Theo. Certainly things aren't working our for Ox right now, but he made the move, took the pay cut. Shows he cares about the football whereas Theo leaves himself open to all sorts of questions. It's not about loyalty either. Loyalty only comes into play when other clubs are chasing. I can't recall a hint of interest in Theo during the summer.

Again though, it's all on Wenger. Either you push the player to get what you want from him or you push him out the door and get something better. At Wenger's Arsenal it is always an option to do neither and let the player waste away. We've seen it many times. Wenger tolerates second best, mediocrity, waste, missed opportunity. He's the best mis-manager in the business.

[Power n Glory]

That striker song and dance routine was when he still hd some market value, his contract was up for renewal and the chavs were sniffing around. His market value is now zero if he wants to hang on to that 140K, so the striker thing has died a death. Ox gets shit for leaving but contrast and compare with Theo. Certainly things aren't working our for Ox right now, but he made the move, took the pay cut. Shows he cares about the football whereas Theo leaves himself open to all sorts of questions. It's not about loyalty either. Loyalty only comes into play when other clubs are chasing. I can't recall a hint of interest in Theo during the summer.

Again though, it's all on Wenger. Either you push the player to get what you want from him or you push him out the door and get something better. At Wenger's Arsenal it is always an option to do neither and let the player waste away. We've seen it many times. Wenger tolerates second best, mediocrity, waste, missed opportunity. He's the best mis-manager in the business.

I can understand why Ox left and add that to what Chesney said about his development, it's understandable. If Wenger couldn't develop Ox into a CM or winger, you'd have to be insane to trust him to turn you into a proper wingback. Ox moving made sense to me. Especially when you factor in that we were slow to offer him a contract. Wilshere is sitting in that same boat right now. We haven't developed him as a player, he's suffered injury after injury because of poor management and now his career at Arsenal is on the line. Moving to Bournemouth for game time was the wrong move but I understand it. If you don't take things into your own hands to try and raise your stock, you may end up frozen out of the squad like Walcott and be in no mans land. Gibbs is another example of that.

[Niall_Quinn]

I can understand why Ox left and add that to what Chesney said about his development, it's understandable. If Wenger couldn't develop Ox into a CM or winger, you'd have to be insane to trust him to turn you into a proper wingback. Ox moving made sense to me. Especially when you factor in that we were slow to offer him a contract. Wilshere is sitting in that same boat right now. We haven't developed him as a player, he's suffered injury after injury because of poor management and now his career at Arsenal is on the line. Moving to Bournemouth for game time was the wrong move but I understand it. If you don't take things into your own hands to try and raise your stock, you may end up frozen out of the squad like Walcott and be in no mans land. Gibbs is another example of that.

Then there are the guys who never get a chance at all, like Perez. And now Chambers. Wenger prefers to play a CM in the CB role. It's genuinely bizarre how he goes about things.

[Özim]

Then there are the guys who never get a chance at all, like Perez. And now Chambers. Wenger prefers to play a CM in the CB role. It's genuinely bizarre how he goes about things.

He's made 20,000 subsitutions and yet has failed to grasp the basic concepts of football, very odd.

[Cripps]

I can understand why Ox left and add that to what Chesney said about his development, it's understandable. If Wenger couldn't develop Ox into a CM or winger, you'd have to be insane to trust him to turn you into a proper wingback. Ox moving made sense to me. Especially when you factor in that we were slow to offer him a contract. Wilshere is sitting in that same boat right now. We haven't developed him as a player, he's suffered injury after injury because of poor management and now his career at Arsenal is on the line. Moving to Bournemouth for game time was the wrong move but I understand it. If you don't take things into your own hands to try and raise your stock, you may end up frozen out of the squad like Walcott and be in no mans land. Gibbs is another example of that.

Personally I'm happy to see as many of the weak minded brittle players like ox, Theo and Gibbs from the banter era leave. Their weak mentality seeps through the squad.

[Power n Glory]

Personally I'm happy to see as many of the weak minded brittle players like ox, Theo and Gibbs from the banter era leave. Their weak mentality seeps through the squad.

We could have a revolving door at Arsenal, that weak mentality will stay within the squad so long as Wenger stays at the helm. He is the root and cause. Bad students, bad teacher.

[Özim]

We could have a revolving door at Arsenal, that weak mentality will stay within the squad so long as Wenger stays at the helm. He is the root and cause. Bad students, bad teacher.

Pretty much, he also signs players with little fight, preferring 4 ft midgets that can pass 5 yards but can't tackle. For years people have thought we're a soft touch, now someone has actually come out and said it.

I look forward to the day we're no longer a bunch of pansies on the pitch, I miss the days when the opposition feared playing against us.

[Mac76]

Then there are the guys who never get a chance at all, like Perez

The biggest crime of last season - drove me crazy seeing Perez do well on his very few appearances and then be constantly ignored in favour of Giraffe, Feo, Danny Woeful etc...