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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    I understand where you are coming from. If you have no business acumen whatsoever or any analytical ability, there is no evidence.

    If you do have business acumen but a biased analytical ability there is vast unfavorable conspiracy theories/evidence to be gleaned. Because I assure you, City fans are sticking with the favorable ones.
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    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    If you do have business acumen and but a biased analytical ability there is vast unfavorable conspiracy theories/evidence to be gleaned. Because I assure you, City fans are sticking to with the favorable ones.
    So you think City being able to acquire a deal that's worth +20% more than Barcelona's deal from an enity that has yet to make a profit is an unfavourable conspiracy theory, one only the hacks (the managers and owners of the top clubs in Europe) and bitter fans openly talk about? One that UEFA is about to investigate, and one that appears set to define whether FFP is just a fuzzy guide that no one really follows?



    I think the phase "biased analytical ability" really applies to yourself mate.

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    The said sponsor might be investing based on city's potential -- it is business. That is why we invested in a youth policy where untested kids are on huge salaries compared to anywhere else.

    I can tell having business acumen does not apply to you.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    The said sponsor might be investing based on city's potential -- it is business. That is why we invested in a youth policy where untested kids are on huge salaries compared to anywhere else.

    I can tell having business acumen does not apply to you.

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    tosser

    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    tosser

    Hahaha, in all seriousness. Your grasping at straws. City, a club pretty far down the world commercial value pecking order for a number of reasons, gets a commercial deal far more valuble than there status would normally allow. Wenger, and a whole bunch of other owners and managers cry foul. UFEA is investigating and your screaming... where's the evidence... Clearly Wenger is in the wrong... He has to be!

    This place is being overrun by some Arsenal fans that are so immoderate and knee jerk in their views and that have become such self-parodying muppets that I'm surprised they haven't self combusted in existensial angst from these years of trophy drought and frustration.
    SJW

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    I could give a fark what other owners think. I can think for myself -- and no, not with red goggles or an arsenal hat on.

    No one has said wenger is wrong -- he is being hypocritical and kneejerk.

    The whole stadium project was a commercialization project -- he sees the club as a business. And that is where the sport is headed. And in all big businesses all commercial routes are exploited to gain an advantage over one's competitors. And that is what City is doing -- if it is shown to be illegal THEN FINE. It hasn't (yet)!


    The example I gave up there is just one scenario where city can explain themselves away. And it is a pretty valid one. That the said sponsor sees it as a speculative investment which will prove cost effective based on City's potential and achievement in a short space of time, is a valid and viable commercial deal. I am sure it works for city fans alrite.

    So you see, it is not out of the realm of the business world for the City deal to be in fact a sound one.

    But then why consider that, when I could cry foul and spout moral outrage because it doesn't favor AFC. Sign of the times and all that.
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    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    You two need too shut the fuck up as well

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    yes boss
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    I could give a fark what other owners think. I can think for myself -- and no, not with red goggles or an arsenal hat on.

    No one has said wenger is wrong -- he is being hypocritical and kneejerk.

    The whole stadium project was a commercialiazation project -- he sees the club as a business. And that is where the sport is headed. And in all big businesses all commercial routes are exploited to gain an advantage over one's competitors. And that is what City is doing -- if it is shown to be illegal THEN FINE. It hasn't (yet)!


    The example I gave up there is just one scenario where city can explain themselves away. And it is a pretty valid one. That the said sponsor sees it as a speculative investment which will prove cost effective based on City's potential and achievement in a short space of time, is a valid and viable commercial deal. I am sure it works for city fans alrite.

    So you see, it is not out of the realm of the business world for the City deal to be in fact sound one.

    But then why consider that, when I could cry foul and spout moral outrage because it doesn't favor AFC. Sign of the times and all that.
    Mate, you are totally mixed up.
    Even if City where on a rapid assent to the very sumit of world football, had a fanbase that showed exceptional growth, and had massive waiting lists to there 45k seater Etihad (lol) Stadium, they still wouldn't seem as attractive as clubs like Barca and Real. Hell, we have a higher pedigree, and would be worth WAAAAY more than city in terms of commercial value and brand recognition and all the things that count as far as these things are concerned..

    This is not the same as building a stadium, City won't be worth 20% more than barca to any sane investor. This is not Wenger being hypercritical, and this is not something City will easily explain away if someone with a solid pair of balls decided to investigate. All but Wengers most blinkered critics I think would concede that he had a fair shout in this issue.

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