You are just an entitled idiot your message is disrespectful, you need to get behind this Microsoft product and your constant criticism is causing a drop in its performanceOriginally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You are just an entitled idiot your message is disrespectful, you need to get behind this Microsoft product and your constant criticism is causing a drop in its performance
Neither of those players ever scored lots of goals if that the stick you wish to beat Ozil with.You're coming up with bad examples and I get what you're saying. I just don't think Ozil is that player. He's not a Xavi or Pirlo.
It's worth remembering that bold point next time you speak to DK.
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Of course not. Not sure if you've been following but that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying Ozil isn't a deep laying central midfielder. He's not a Xavi or Pirlo even if he has the passing skills. HCZ seems to be describing him like that's how Ozil functions in a team and that's when I replied with the above. He operates more in the final third of the pitch. He's an attacking midfielder and not a central midfielder. Maybe he could make the switch to central midfield like Santi has? Or maybe he'd benefit more from a team that plays a counter attacking style because I can imagine him being more lethal in that set up. All speculation.
I think although he is not anywhere near as deep lying as Pirlo he is more comparable to him or Xavi than a De Bruyn
I always think in the system we play the primary source of goals comes from the striker and the secondary support comes from the wingers who can also cut in to play as supplementary strikers.
Plus if you want to be pedantic, he is the third highest goal scorer in the team after Sanchez and Giroud, and if he could/should have scored more this season than that arguably goes double for them....and Sanchez has gone through dry spells even when not injured or recovering from injury
If you were to tell me you'd like a central attacking midfielder with more goals in him, than i'd say fine i agree let's sell ramsey and bring someone in who can be rotated with Ozil (someone like Mikhataryan who can play both in that position and on the wing would be perfect)
This is such a silly debate IMO. Ozil is our best player, has been all season. Im with HCZ, he offers so much more than playmaking, if it were to come down between him and Sanchez, Im taking Ozil. THat is not to say that I dont think Sanchez is brilliant and critical to keep around.
Ozil has been playing much deeper for Germany recently and he is pretty fucking good in that role. There are not too many other footballers in the world who have the intelligence that he does.
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I'd say Cesc is a player more comparable to Xavi but when he was moved further up the pitch he was also able to score more goals. Since switching to a 3 man midfield and one up front, the goals have had to come from the attacking midfielder as well as the striker and wide players.
I also think Ozil is a better dribble and has more pace than Cesc so can't see why he's not scoring more goals or at least popping up with vital goals when we're really struggling to score. I think there is a lot more he can offer this team or more he can do have an impact on a game because he has the skill. He just doesn't carry a team with his performance that often.
So should he be operating from a deeper position where he can have more influence on a game? We've seen all season how badly we've missed Cazorla in that deep role.
It seems like a silly debate, but I've heard Wenger, Henry, Hoddle, Lowe and even Ozil himself admit that he needs to score more goals. This is in light of the PFA and Team of the Year snubs. Also, the debate pops up because we keep hearing Ozil won't sign a new deal. No doubt he's an intelligent footballer but I wish he had more of a stomach to lead the team and not be as passive. You say he's more than a playmaker and I'd argue that too, hence the argument.
I do think Ozil is a bit of a pussy at times but his undoubted ability also levels that out. It is absolutely essential we keep him and Sanchez, if either of those go we might as well give up ever hoping to be perceived as a club where top players can succeed.
As long as Wenger stays I think losing both players is inevitable. It's a double edged sword. I can't see them signing a new deal whilst he only has a year left on his contract but also can't see them wanting to stay if we continue to blunder our way through a season. I'm pretty sure when they start pulling the old 'show me your sporting ambition' speech, Wenger will get defensive and shop them around. #WengerOut.
A new manager is essential and even if we lost all of our top players but brought in a serious manager that knows what he's doing, I'd have more confidence in the team getting back in shape. I just think of it as a fresh start and a new manager working with a blank canvas creating the team he wants without having to squeeze anyone in from the old regime.
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