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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    sure, he's no-one's first choice, but it comes back to the 'here and now' argument, if he got us over the line in the PL or CL next season no-one would care less about about his age etc
    TBH these age arguments irritate me.

    This was one of the silly reasons why a lot of people dismissed Liverpool because they relied on the apparently "aged" Salah and Van Dijk...and wow, they ended up winning the title convincingly with those two being the stars of the show.

    We sometimes forget these modern players are top athletes and actually more professional and fit than the ones we had in the past who easily succumbed to stardom.

    The ones we have now take far better care of themselves and even in basketball we have the likes of LeBron James still producing at a higher level than most of the youngsters and even playing in the same team with his son!

    As for Watkins or any other PL striker.....I still want to see what happens with Isak before making up my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I heard on Talksport today that Harvey Elliot might end up being sold this summer so that he can progress in his career - is that true in LFC circles?
    Sadly yeah he looks increasingly likely to be going. I really like him as a player but we can't guarantee him the gametime he needs.

    Also seems like Konate is more and more likely to be going, if not now then next summer. He's good, but I don't think he's as good as he thinks he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    TBH these age arguments irritate me.

    This was one of the silly reasons why a lot of people dismissed Liverpool because they relied on the apparently "aged" Salah and Van Dijk...and wow, they ended up winning the title convincingly with those two being the stars of the show.

    We sometimes forget these modern players are top athletes and actually more professional and fit than the ones we had in the past who easily succumbed to stardom.

    The ones we have now take far better care of themselves and even in basketball we have the likes of LeBron James still producing at a higher level than most of the youngsters and even playing in the same team with his son!

    As for Watkins or any other PL striker.....I still want to see what happens with Isak before making up my mind.
    Surely this depends on the player, you witnessed with your own eyes the type of player Sterling is now that his legs have gone. Sports science means that players on average throughout sport have longer playing careers than they might otherwise do (most male tennis players’ careers were over by their early thirties). But there are players who rely on pace who likely won’t be able to maintain their engine long into their thirties and that’s why it’s rightly considered a short term signing buying any player over 30 unless they are a physical freak

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/clym65378rdo

    I feel like banging my head into my desk at home

    No more fucking defenders

    Oh we need cover on the right hand side of centre half? Sorry what exactly are Ben White and Jurrien Timber ???chopped liver

    White, Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly, Kiwior (add Tomiyasu who we are never going to be able to sell that’s eight).


    I don’t subscribe to this everything the club does is shit approach because you have to twist yourself into so many positions to justify it. But I’m only half joking when I say there needs to be an intervention on Arteta, the obsession with covering areas we don’t need covering whilst ignoring the fact that we clearly lack both a goalscorer and creativity is infuriating

    A defensive midfielder that we don’t need, a defender we don’t need

    How much of that summer budget is this bullshit going to eat up. Yes the squad is thin but how about beefing it up in the areas it needs beefing up. Attack, creativity and width


    Everything is secondary to that, backup goalkeeper, Zubimendi, everything.


    Fuck Arteta and fuck that useless Italian cunt who is his lapdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    sure, he's no-one's first choice, but it comes back to the 'here and now' argument, if he got us over the line in the PL or CL next season no-one would care less about about his age etc
    I agree.
    My problem is I don't think he's good enough to get us over the line. He would have been Ok to add in January to see if he could help out, but long term he's not it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I agree.
    My problem is I don't think he's good enough to get us over the line. He would have been Ok to add in January to see if he could help out, but long term he's not it for me.
    This is where I get confused. You aren’t convinced by a striker with premier league experience who has outscored any Arsenal player by some distance in the last five years. But you’re super sure a player who again to underline it clearly has played at no higher domestic level than Portugal, is the real deal?

    This is where people genuinely lose me. I’m not a fan of signing Watkins (in that I’d rather sign a much younger player) but in terms of consistency in front of goal and actually having top league experience….what am I missing here? Is it because he didn’t score as many goals in the champions league.

    Is it because Gyokeres’ agent has done a better job pimping him out?


    Sorry in a bit of a foul mood over transfers, was honestly happier when we weren’t signing anyone
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    And now to make things worse Eze

    Fucking hell. Yeah I’m able to admit I judged him more on his awful performances at international level and he was exceptionally good in the FA cup final. But there’s a your mum’s snatch width of difference between him having the game of his life in the cup final and being good enough to take us forward. The point of signing a left winger is that the person needs to be better than Martinelli and sorry no he isn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss View Post
    Sadly yeah he looks increasingly likely to be going. I really like him as a player but we can't guarantee him the gametime he needs.

    Also seems like Konate is more and more likely to be going, if not now then next summer. He's good, but I don't think he's as good as he thinks he is.
    Oh, I always thought he was would one of the regulars as a 'home grown lad' - but yeh fair enough.

    I read that Konate was likely gonna be off too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Surely this depends on the player, you witnessed with your own eyes the type of player Sterling is now that his legs have gone. Sports science means that players on average throughout sport have longer playing careers than they might otherwise do (most male tennis players’ careers were over by their early thirties). But there are players who rely on pace who likely won’t be able to maintain their engine long into their thirties and that’s why it’s rightly considered a short term signing buying any player over 30 unless they are a physical freak
    Exactly, players over 30 that are still as good as they were in their 20's are the exception not the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    This is where I get confused. You aren’t convinced by a striker with premier league experience who has outscored any Arsenal player by some distance in the last five years. But you’re super sure a player who again to underline it clearly has played at no higher domestic level than Portugal, is the real deal?

    This is where people genuinely lose me. I’m not a fan of signing Watkins (in that I’d rather sign a much younger player) but in terms of consistency in front of goal and actually having top league experience….what am I missing here? Is it because he didn’t score as many goals in the champions league.

    Is it because Gyokeres’ agent has done a better job pimping him out?


    Sorry in a bit of a foul mood over transfers, was honestly happier when we weren’t signing anyone
    I think we are all in the same foul mood with our transfer activity!

    I'm not super sure about Gyokores, I just think he's more proven (at scoring goals) and less of a risk than Sekso who has never proven anything other than he can score the same amount of goals in a season as Watkins (15, which is no better than Havertz)

    The point is that if we want to win trophies, then we need to be going for a top level striker - like Isak for example.
    We know that isn't going to happen now, but dropping to 3rd tier players is not the right answer and will lead to more predictable disappointment.
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