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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    I don't buy that mate, it seems for all intents and purposes he argues over an additional £1mil transfer fee so why would he sanction such wages? Seems to me the other guy (whose name completely escapes me but he was the one who negotiated the Joel Campbell transfer very badly) and Ivan negotiate contracts and wages with players once we have agreed a fee.

    Wenger might well be involved in identifying the players he wants and who gets contract renewals but i cant see him negotiating wages
    I know he probabaly doesn't directly negotiate wages, but I would bet that he has a massive say in how the wages are spread. The reason they're so high, is that we've put shit players on 50k, and RVP our captain can't get more than 100k (poor him eh). Anyway, we don't seem to pay based on quality, rather we pay everyone 50k, regardless. And that smacks of Uncle Wenger wanting all his boys to have the same.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    It's ok! We have 50 million to spend! or is it 55 million? Fuck it, I'm feeling positive. Call it 60 million, and with selling a few others, I make that 100 million.
    Thing is as i mentioned in another thread, every league place we go down and the loss of champions league football narrows our available player pool significantly and with a manager who genuinely seems to have to be forced to spend money we could have £500mil to spend and it wouldnt matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I know he probabaly doesn't directly negotiate wages, but I would bet that he has a massive say in how the wages are spread. The reason they're so high, is that we've put shit players on 50k, and RVP our captain can't get more than 100k (poor him eh). Anyway, we don't seem to pay based on quality, rather we pay everyone 50k, regardless. And that smacks of Uncle Wenger wanting all his boys to have the same.
    Well the summer clearout should free up about £500k a week on wages that's a whopping £26mil a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    Thing is as i mentioned in another thread, every league place we go down and the loss of champions league football narrows our available player pool significantly and with a manager who genuinely seems to have to be forced to spend money we could have £500mil to spend and it wouldnt matter
    I don't buy the player pool thing. When you look at Vermaelen, Koscielny etc, I think he does alright, and they're not from the pool everyone assumes we would be buying from.

    I do think we need to buy from the top pool of players....but I don't think we need loads of them.

    I think you're worrying your worry pants a bit too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavs View Post
    Well the summer clearout should free up about £500k a week on wages that's a whopping £26mil a year
    Which 1/5th of should go to securing RVP....

    The other 2/5ths on other renewals and the rest on any new buys?

    That's their wages sorted. We just need to buy them....
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    I don't buy the player pool thing. When you look at Vermaelen, Koscielny etc, I think he does alright, and they're not from the pool everyone assumes we would be buying from.

    I do think we need to buy from the top pool of players....but I don't think we need loads of them.

    I think you're worrying your worry pants a bit too much.
    Well while it wouldn't effect Wenger that much as he doesn't shop at the top table anyway if he is replaced then it restricts the new guy. Essentially by not being in the champs league we lose the chance to buy any well known prospects or anyone from the big clubs who isnt a left over (like Benayoun)

    The other problem we have got is that more and more rich men are making playthings of teams which means we will lose out to them as well, look at PSG and Anzhi Mahcjeiowei9jni2c2qj0n2i1 in Russia i also see Reading have been bought by a Russian billionaire no was well. Malaga are also doing this now.

    While our model might be more sustainable than having a rich sugar daddy that doesnt help us here and now

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    Reading

    Awful shitty little town

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Reading

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    A drunk once threatened to punch me at the train station in Reading

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    I don't think he'll be replaced.

    Something went on last summer in the transfer window, and it was panic stations at the end, but I would has at a guess that Benayon, Arteta etc were his contigency policy if Cesc and Nasri went. I don't believe he thought he would lose both....but he did, and therefore plan b was put into operation.

    IF we can clear the decks in the summer, I think there's a good chance that there will be a marquee signing for the fans. And a couple of additions along the lines of Verm's / Kos etc.

    The rest, as you say will be the youngsters filling in.

    We do have players at our club who are top quality. Hang on to RVP. We have Wilshire, Kos, Verms, AOC, Song etc etc...they are good players. We just need to supliment them with a couple of top draw players.

    How do we do that?

    It's not going to be the 50/60/100 million we supposedly have to spend (lol), it'll be from selling (Theo?) using a bit of the cash surplus, and hopefully getting rid of the deadwood.

    And we'll still make the Champs league anyway, so....
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    The thing i don't understand and i know Arseblog goes on about this is that if we are so financially sound and have such a sustainable model why aren't we identifying teams who are on the brink and exploiting them?

    Valencia are the perfect example, they are fucked financially, even the sales of David Silva, David Villa, Mata and so on has still left them in a huge hole why don't we pick and choose their players and make them offers they cant refuse. Banega* Soldado and Piatti would all make us better and this example can be followed across Europe. There are teams in Greece, Italy, Spain, Turkey who are all broke and need money. Why not take the bully boy approach and take our pick.

    *dont know if anyone saw the story that Eva Banega had ran over his own foot after leaving his handbrake off on his car

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