If we finish 3rd Wenger is the best manager in the league

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Ok I think I know what you mean. Everyone was proud pro wenger or not but what I meant with results like that many of them are quick to include Wenger in their praise

No what i meant was, things like Wengers fans hate statements like that. Were all Arsenal fans not Wenger fans and it just seems people who say that, say it to suit their argument or to say how people are happy to accept failure etc.

Just because you don't say Aw out after does not mean you his fan, or if we were happy with the spirt in the Milan game did not mean people accepted it to be success.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

League table doesnt lie...

You said once more, thats what im talking about, pep has been owing him for about 2 years now.

Except for the CL defeat to Inter though.

[Cripps_orig]

You said once more, thats what im talking about, pep has been owing him for about 2 years now.

Except for the CL defeat to Inter though.

And the cup final last season

So Barca wins a couple of pub team friendlies and a few league games

Real are still top. Im sure Mourinho would gladly lose to Pep every time if it meant Real won the league. Once more, Pep has been shown up by the Special One.

Biggest Must Get of all time and if we could get him, we're winning the treble if not the quadruple next season comfortably

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Using that as an example doesn't make any sense and contradicts your argument; if the players suddenly decided to start playing then can't it be said they are to blame for not performing in previous games? I.e it is not Wenger's fault if players can decide when they turn up or not?
You've already said Mancini is tactically astute but has been let down by players, so in which case it's very hard for us to ever truly evaluate managers if they're so easily at the behest of what players decide to do.

There are valid reasons why the OP could be argued to be wrong but actually using the winning of games against him seems plainly odd.

as usual you've taken the bull by the horn and looked at a post from completely the wrong angle.

we are talking about the manager not the players. my example was to show that the manager has had less impact on our revival than people think, as its more down to players. so yes, they have let the manager down by not playing well, but they were allowed to do that because wenger was inept to allow it in the first place. we clearly hadn't trained the whole team to defend at the beginning of the season and it seems the players are the ones who got their finger out their arses and decided to change our luck this season.

most notably our captain, who has been nothing short of fantastic.

so using a game where we won as a result of our players having the underlying influence, instead of the manager, is perfectly acceptable.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

And the cup final last season

So Barca wins a couple of pub team friendlies and a few league games

Real are still top. Im sure Mourinho would gladly lose to Pep every time if it meant Real won the league. Once more, Pep has been shown up by the Special One.

Biggest Must Get of all time and if we could get him, we're winning the treble if not the quadruple next season comfortably

Just like real yeah

He's peps bitch always will be and once he bottles this league will be again.

Durham

Whats the Spanish for bottling it cause thats what Jose is doing.

Durham, He is the best there is of what he does.

Even Balague says the same more ore less.

[Cripps_orig]

Just like real yeah

He's peps bitch always will be and once he bottles this league will be again.

Just like Inter and Porto

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Just like Inter and Porto

That has nout to do with him being at real.

[latewinner]

Wouldnt say ever but he is damn good and comfortably pisses on Wenger

I'd say ever because I don't think there's ever been a more feared manager. If for example we heard he is the next Tottenham manager imagine the fear all of us would have. He'd have them winning guaranteed and I don't think you can say that about any manager except maybe Ferguson.
He guarantees success more than any manager ever has.

[Cripps_orig]

That has nout to do with him being at real.

But it has everything with him being an alwsome manager. If you want to talk just about Real, we have a specific Spanish thread for that

[Olivier's xmas twist]

But it has everything with him being an alwsome manager. If you want to talk just about Real, we have a specific Spanish thread for that

Your the one who said he is good and that he wins trebles where ever he goes, well he is not doing it at real is he was my point, so not sure why you think he'd do it with us.

And so what if they are leading Barca if they don't win the league it don't mean anything, but i doubt he'd care anyway.

he'd swan of to city and start again. Least pep knows how to stick with one club and care for its future, thats why he will alwaus be better then Jose.