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    Nuri Sahin is a deep-lying playmaker whom Arsenal want to be able to buy from Real Madrid if he proves a success during his loan spell. Photograph: Peter Dejong/AP
    Arsenal continued to negotiate with Real Madrid on Monday over the signing of Nuri Sahin, with the sticking point being what may happen to the midfielder at the end of his proposed season-long loan at the Emirates Stadium.

    Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, wants the option to make the transfer permanent but Madrid are reluctant effectively to sign over his rights, in case Sahin were to find exceptional form.

    The 23-year-old Turkey international left Borussia Dortmund for Feyenoord on a season-long loan in 2007-08 and the move ignited his career. Feyenoord had no option to buy.

    Wenger has long admired Sahin but he has followed him particularly closely this summer as Alex Song edged towards the Arsenal exit. Song has completed a £15m transfer to Barcelona, having undergone a medical on Monday, to leave Wenger with a vacancy in midfield, although the manager did say after Saturday's goalless draw against Sunderland that he is happy enough with the midfield options at his disposal.

    He mentioned Abou Diaby and also noted that Jack Wilshere and Tomas Rosicky were on their way back from injury. Arsenal are always cautious when talking about transfers and they do not like to get ahead of themselves.

    Madrid have made it clear that they are receptive to the notion of loaning Sahin, with José Mourinho, the Madrid manager, telling him at the beginning of the month that "if you decide to leave, we are going to help you to leave". Sahin moved to Madrid from Dortmund for €10m (£7.8m) last summer but his impact in La Liga was minimal as he struggled in the face of the competition for places from Xabi Alonso, Sami Khedira, Mesut Ozil, Lassana Diarra and Esteban Granero.

    Liverpool have attempted to sign Sahin this summer although unlike Arsenal, they do not have Champions League football to offer.

    Sahin, a highly technical, deep-lying playmaker, would not appear to be a like-for-like replacement at Arsenal for the imposing Song, even if the Cameroonian is a more creative player than he is sometimes given credit for. He supplied 14 assists in all competitions last season.

    Song has departed under a cloud, with his desire to listen to Barcelona's proposal and, latterly, to push for it setting him at odds with Wenger and leading figures at the club, who felt that they deserved greater loyalty. Song's view of his worth to the team also differed from that of Wenger. Arsenal readily accepted Barcelona's bid and there has been the suggestion that Song, because of his highly individual streak, was a bad influence in the dressing-room.

    Song feels that any attempts to discredit him have been borne out of Arsenal's need to give the fans an explanation. He believes that he has nothing to prove and the fact that he has joined Barcelona speaks for itself. Arsenal did, though, post a supportive message on their website when they confirmed that the transfer had been completed.

    "Everyone at Arsenal would like to thank Alex for his contribution to the club and wish him the best of luck for the future," it read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Yes, he tried to renegotiate his contract, which isn't surprising given that he's on $50K a week which is the same as Bendtner, Diaby and Chamakh. I don't know why you mention blackmail, it's simply a worker using the transfer window to strengthen his bargaining position. I think it says more about the board's greed than Song that he was on so little in the first place.

    he neogaiated his contract two years ago so not getting paid enough is his and his agents fault for agreeing to it in the first place

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    Don't waste your time ollie.

    Some people just cannot stop bashing and blaming the club for everything that happens.

    Song has one of the biggest ****s of an agent in top flight football and he did everything he needed to do to get his £4m finders fee.

    I do think that song shouldve been on more than £50k a week though, definitely more than bendy and Chakma, but obviously didn't have the patience or loyalty to wait for the transfer window to close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Don't waists your time ollie.

    Some people just cannot stop bashing and blaming the club for everything that happens.

    Song has one of the biggest ****s of an agent in top flight football and he did everything he needed to do to get his £4m finders fee.

    I do think that song shouldve been on more than £50k a week though, definitely more than bendy and Chakma, but obviously didn't have the patience or loyalty to wait for the transfer window to close.
    he seemed happy with his 50k when he was unproven. with the spetember thing, the club called his bluff and sold him. they tested his loyalty with the wait till september thing, it showed him not to be loyal, wenger wants disloyal ****s out, so told him to fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    he seemed happy with his 50k when he was unproven. with the spetember thing, the club called his bluff and sold him. they tested his loyalty with the wait till september thing, it showed him not to be loyal, wenger wants disloyal ****s out, so told him to fuck off
    Oh don't get me wrong, he lapped up that contract when he was a no-one. He was being payed handsomely to not dish out the goods every week.

    But yeh, they called him and his agents bluff and they weren't happy, so wenger fucked him off and rightly so.

    This wasn't a sale to balance the books or because they didnt want to pay song more money and in this situation I believe what the club have said about him and his attitude is true rather than what song and his agent have.

    As those that are blaming the club have said, it didnt make any sense to sell song as he was a good player and we have no one really lined up as such as a replacement, they've only sold him to balance the books.

    Well no, that tells me that something has definitely gone on behind closed doors between song and wenger, etc that has pissed wenger off enough for him to fuck song off quickly for a fairly low fee considering his contract length.
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    How can you claim to know anything about these players or suggest other agents wouldnt try and renegotiate a better contract especially considering Chakmakh is on a similar wage. Point is he deserved a better contract, and we should have given him one. Even if we dont, selling him is just ridiculous and makes little sense.

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    How about reading the topic of the thread and discussing that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayNoMore View Post
    How can you claim to know anything about these players or suggest other agents wouldnt try and renegotiate a better contract especially considering Chakmakh is on a similar wage. Point is he deserved a better contract, and we should have given him one. Even if we dont, selling him is just ridiculous and makes little sense.
    just using chamakh as an example because its fucking irrelevant. when song signed this deal, he was unproven and raw and was fucking delighted to get 50k, chamakh had jsut had a good season and scored quite a few goals iirc, he was able to get more wages based on that. you cannot compare the two because they signed at different points and the club saw them in diffferent ways

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    So even if we take Chamakh out of the equation, are you really going to say he doesnt deserve to get his contract negotiated?

    He had improved and one of our top performers. It seems silly to sell a player if you want to keep him and he wanted to stay just on higher wages. When we can afford to employ shit like squilachi and suddenly people have a problem in rewarding one of your top performers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SayNoMore View Post
    So even if we take Chamakh out of the equation, are you really going to say he doesnt deserve to get his contract negotiated?
    do you know what? i am, its his own fault he neogaiated a crap contract and his agents fault.

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