Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
No, no owning there. I saw it and just couldn't be bothered with another pointless debate. I'd already made my point.
What he did was select the last 8 games, where we managed to avoid defeat. Why didn't he give a rundown from the point where the scum defeated us and we fell 7 points behind them? That would have clearly shown their bit of choking. It's simple logic, our run would have meant fuck all hadn't they choked a bit.
Anyway, I've been on here long enough to know who finds what funny.
Spurs lost the 2 games after they played us. After that they'd still have been ahead of us by a point
The two games were Fulham at home which was a bad one for them to lose but every team gets those and Liverpool away which is never an easy place to go (for all their mediocrity Liverpool only lost 4 home league games last year)
After that Spurs' run in was far harder than ours and yet despite our excellent run-in we only finished a point above them.
Spurs had:
Swansea away (won, good result, we also won there in the run-in)
Everton at home (drew - we also drew with them in the run-in)
City at home (won, good result which I, for one, wasn't expecting)
Wigan away (drew - arguably a slip up but Wigan were scrapping for their survival),
Southampton home (won - you'd expect them to)
Chelsea away (drew - were behind twice, a point is never a bad result there, it's better than we did)
Stoke City away (won - not always an easy place to go, I'd say that was a good result for them)
Sunderland home (won - you'd expect them to)
If you look at our last 10 games they were all very winnable. Swansea away was a good win. Utd and Everton were our 2 other tough games and we drew both (although IMO we played well in both).
After Spurs lost the two games I mentioned we were breathing down their neck and they could have really fallen apart. With the run we put together in the last 10 games and Spurs' far harder run-in we could have finished way above them. As it was we only finished a point above them and they finished with their highest ever points total in the PL.
I'd guess they'd look back on those 2 games after they beat us, that's where they let us back in the race, but I don't know any Spurs fans who feel the side let them down or that they choked.
Nah Spud fans dont feel like their team choked. They are all happy bunnies over in Gloryland. The greater issue of our inept manager being rewarded with more years to stupor us with his sleight of hand card tricks of making 4th place look like climbing K2 with one hand tied behind his back, has been distilled into back and forth over the meaning of choked. Lets look at this for the sake of semantics
7 seconds ahead of a runner in the 1500m and you lose by 1 second = choked
7 shots ahead on the last day of a major . Lose by 1 shot = choked
7 lengths ahead in the grand national, end 1 length behind......Choked
Either they choked or maybe we are just innately and naturally ordained to be better than them. So we dont even need Wenger.
I`m sure your Spud friends will much prefer the last explanation
If we were 7 points ahead of Spurs and then fell behind them to finish 5th, wouldn't most people on here put that down to us chocking?
gazidas tonight has again confirmed that wenger was opperating on a limited budget. well that sorts that issue out. board didnt give him money despite saying they would
Source.
If he's talking into relation to Chelsea and City then he's not wrong. Of course we're on a limited budget when compared to a club that has an unlimited budget. It shouldn't contradict his statement about us being able to afford Rooney.
from tonights q&a with him. check twitter all hte main blogs are living blogging it.
he isnt talking about now, he says we do have money, however he said last 8 years arsene has been operating on a limited budget and only able to get players within that budget
I can't and won't speak for 'most people on here' because I think most people on here are stupid. But I would try to use my head. We knew Tottenham had a tougher run in and we still had over a quarter of a season to go. I didn't think we would make it because it was hard to imagine us going on such a brilliant run over 10 games. I don't think some people understand what choking or bottling means. Its such a stupid thing to do to pick out, say, our qpr game and say we bottled it had we missed out. Tottenham were consistent in their performances throughout the season. Not brilliant but not bad either. Nobody saw us putting on that sort of run together - better than title winning form - given how disjointed we looked earlier, and luckily there were lots of games left to just about sneak it. If Tottenham's results fallen off a cliff over a run of games they were expected to win, and we stayed on our usual mediocre form, then you can call it choking.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I guess Ollie's talking about his quote:
I'm not too bothered about crying over spilled milk. That's all in the past and what's more important is how we behave now. I think this sort of quote is more promising and it has even backed up by keeping Walcott. Lets hope the actions follow.@Gingers4Limpar: Gazidis, re. AW signing non-super-top-quality players: "The paramaters he's operating in are the parameters of what the club could afford".
@Gingers4Limpar: Woah – Ivan says our wage structure "will have to evolve" as top players will keep seeing wages rise, why mid-players' wages could stagnate.
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