We'll finish top 4 easily.
We'll finish top 4 easily.
We'll see, don't think it'll be as easy as you think considering how little has changed.
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Considering Fabregas won't play for us in the pre-season and Nasri is easy about his future provided he leaves in the end, plus the fact we've lost a LB and don't have a replacement, Hartson is right. Top 4 for us will be an achievement. He's also right about that being not good enough, not by a long shot. If we start the season aiming low then given the levels of desire that run through the team and the determination and bottle to stay the course, we might get relegated. Funny to think that not long ago Wenger was celebrating the fact we were still in four tournaments, now he criticises people who kick up a fuss about coming up empty handed again. And talks of finishing top 4 being a trophy in itself. The losing mentality is now firmly embedded and I think many people are underestimating just how catastrophically bad we were at the tail end of last year. It proved this team isn't capable of winning anything and yet Wenger is setting up shop to go with pretty much the same team again, minus its most experienced player and possibly two of its best players. It will be a huge struggle to finish top 4, a betting man would surely conclude we don't have the players or the temperament to pull it off. We were weak before and we only hung on to top 4 because the games ran out, if that CC final had occurred earlier in the season we'd be in the Europa league now. The bottom line is, there are no positive signs or indicators at the club right now. Not one. You could say Jack Wilshere is a big plus, but he'll be moving to Utd in 2014 (for an undervalued fee).“That is not good enough for an Arsenal fan. Arsenal want to be talking about winning titles and things, not finishing in the top four..."
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the prem will continue as it did last season, with quite a few surprising results along the way. whilst i agree arsenal will remain in the cl places, nothing is easy in the prem.
Delusional
are you related to Wenger
Keep Wenger for life? Does Henry hate us that much?Arsenal legend Thierry Henry has admitted that he is "suffering" watching his former team go six years without a trophy.
Henry will make an emotional return to the Emirates Stadium on Saturday with his team the New York Red Bulls as they participate in the Emirates Cup.
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The 33-year old, however, still has faith in Arsene Wenger despite much criticism surrounding the Gunners manager, even though the club have no won anything since he departed for Barcelona in 2006.
"I am an Arsenal fan, I just want to see them winning. I am suffering because we didn't win anything for a very long time, but I hope that they can do well," Henry told a news conference at the Emirates Stadium tonight.
"The boss changed the face of the club and, for me, I would keep Arsene for life.
"I know he got a bit of stick recently, but hopefully they can change that this year.
"You have got to stick with the guys even when they are not doing well. That is one of the most important things.
"Hopefully they can do it this year."
With spiralling speculation surrounding Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri, many have questioned Arsenal’s credentials without their two star players, Henry, however, insists it’s the collective effort that counts.
"In our time, we had a great time. It was not down to one, two, three, four, five, six or seven players. It is a team effort - that's it," he added.
"Whichever team you play in, it is a team effort."
Henry has been playing in the MLS since 2010 after moving from Barcelona, but revealed he would take up an Arsenal coaching role if given the chance.
"I would like to. It's a big thing. I would love to be part of the club one day, but it's not up to me," he said.
"Right now, I think I they are in the right hands and we know that."
Arsenal’s new Ivorian forward Gervinho impressed on his debut last week and Henry believes he is a great addition to the Gunners ranks.
"He is a good player. I have known about him for a very long time," he said.
"He is skilful, versatile and you will see that in one-on-one situations - he is going to kill a lot of defenders in this league.
"Gervinho is fast, has great vision and everything to succeed at Arsenal. He is an Arsenal player and Arsene doesn't buy players who won't fit in his team.
"The fans will be excited by him. He can light up a stadium. He can play anywhere."
Ray Parlour reckons Arsenal must be content to challenge for the top two or three in the Premier League next season.
The former Gunner’s midfielder, who won the league with the club three times, admits that a real title tilt may be beyond Arsene Wenger’s side this year, conceding that not only are the teams around the top getting stronger every year but also that Arsenal may not have the strength to push Man United, Chelsea and Man City all the way.
He told talkSPORT: “The hope is that Arsenal win the league but realistically you’ve got to be top three or top two. You’ve got to be up there challenging, but it’s getting harder and harder every season.
“We used to win trophies, but it was only Arsenal and Manchester United. Look at Manchester City now, they’re going to be stronger, look at Man United they’re always going to be strong, Chelsea will be strong with a new manager and I think they’ll have a really good season.
“And then you’ve got the likes of Liverpool who have improved and Spurs if they keep Modric will be a hard side to beat. These teams are improving all the time so Arsenal have got to keep going. People are going and buying players and Arsenal have got to do the same.
“Realistically you’ve got to be playing Champions League football every season but I think Arsene Wenger has got to be true to himself and say ‘we’re going to go out and try and win the league but realistically we’re going for the top two or top three and playing Champions League football every season’
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Have to agree tbh,
Yeah, we need players to improve the squad as we've got the failures moving on out but the last part is asking for Wenger to do exactly what he already does, seems like a weird thing to say.
I disagree with this. We were bloody awful at the tail end of last season but IMO we gave up because we knew we wouldn't win the league and knew we'd finish top 4 whatever we did. If we'd needed a couple of results to finish top 4 then, IMO, we'd have got them. We'll never know of course but in past seasons when top 4 has been looking dicey we've got results when we needed to.
Sadly I think that's the limit of our ambitions and abilities this year but I still think we're better than 'the rest' and will finish top 4 by default. We'll see...
I think a lot depends on how Liverpool do. They have overpaid buying 'overhyped' young English Players, but the likes of Carroll, Downing & Henderson know PL quite well and will dig in for the Pool when the going gets tough.
Assuming we don't buy which is looking increasingly likely I think this season will be our toughest for a good few years, we're going to be heavily involved in a scrap with Liverpool & Spuds for 4th, forget about the title or challenging Man U, City & Chelsea, they are all a cut above us and will finish comfortably above us IMHO.
For me this season is going to be a write off when it comes to challenging for trophies, it will be all about internal development and seeing the likes of Gibbs, Ramsey, Chesney (to a lesser extent as he's almost there) & Wilshere (to a lesser extent as he's almost there) develop into important first team players.
If Arsene doesn't buy then we're in for a major transistion season, Arsene will want to see how far he can take the team and how he can develop his next batch of Projects.
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