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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Where did I say I didn't want the manager to be changed?
    So you want a change in ownership and manager? Cool.

    We have a change in ownership. He just won't be a sugar daddy and we don't need that. The new rules that come into play won't allow us to spend beyond our means anyway. So that kills that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Here;
    Because saying that you need an owner to change the manager means I didn't want the manager to change.


    OK. I guess I've just got to accept the caliblire of people I'm dealing with here... /o\

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I'm not a free market fundimentalist, but I have to accept that this is the system that the football is based around. A player is worth however much a team wants to pay for him. Given teams are paying a certain amount, the question of "should" is irrelevant or at best, philosophical.
    but you think Yaya is a marquee player and because his wages are £200k a week that is what similar players should be on? I would say that Parker is not ony a better player but had a better season despite being in the shower of shit that is west ham and yet you mock LDG above for using him as an example?

    In fact we are very like man city in that we have a large portion of players who dont pull their weight and get paid irrelevant wages, we also have a manager who is under increasing pressure for his job and has lost a certain percentage of his players. The difference is we arent getting taken from behind by an arab and we dont have to pt up with teh likes of Tevez, Balotelli, Bellamy, Santa Cruz, Adebayor and so on being on £150k a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Because saying that you need an owner to change the manager means I didn't want the manager to change.


    OK. I guess I've just got to accept the caliblire of people I'm dealing with here... /o\
    As I, like everyone else, is so obviously thick and can't come up with an argument, I guess that gives me free reign to go for the juvenile option.

    Shut up you fucking dick.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    So you want a change in ownership and manager? Cool.

    We have a change in ownership. He just won't be a sugar daddy and we don't need that. The new rules that come into play won't allow us to spend beyond our means anyway. So that kills that idea.
    My bet is on that fair play ruling being totally ignored, especially by the Spanish clubs.

    Also, having a passive owner kinda kills the idea of anything else happening with our club on the pitch anyway.
    Last edited by AKBapologist; 08-06-2011 at 02:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    My bet is on that fair play ruling being totally ignored, especially by the Spanish clubs.

    Also, having a passive owner kinda kills the idea of anything else happening with our club on the pitch anyway.
    Nope because its run by UEFA not the individual FA's so after the 3 phase impelmentation it will become binding and anyone who doesnt comply is fined and docked 10 points. Basically Chelsea, Man city and Manpoo have a year to pay off all their debts or at least enugh that the repayment costs are covered by income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    My bet is on that fair play ruling being totally ignored, especially by the Spanish clubs.
    That's assured me. You've got my vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    Nope because its run by UEFA not the individual FA's so after the 3 phase impelmentation it will become binding and anyone who doesnt comply is fined and docked 10 points. Basically Chelsea, Man city and Manpoo have a year to pay off all their debts or at least enugh that the repayment costs are covered by income.
    Chelsea and City can just write down there debts if necessary, Barca and Real will carry on as per usual. United are still so much further ahead of us in terms of revenue generated that we'll never catch up. Even if the FFA works, that's exactly when those teams will do all the investment in infrastructure that we're now currently paying for, catching up to our level in that regard in less time whilst having a decent run of successes. I honestly see us fighting for scraps between Liverpool, City, and United - especially if AW is as bad a manager as we all currently believe him to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Chelsea and City can just write down there debts if necessary, Barca and Real will carry on as per usual. United are still so much further ahead of us in terms of revenue generated that we'll never catch up. Even if the FFA works, that's exactly when those teams will do all the investment in infrastructure that we're now currently paying for, catching up to our level in that regard in less time whilst having a decent run of successes. I honestly see us fighting for scraps between Liverpool, City, and United - especially if AW is as bad a manager as we all currently believe him to be.
    yes chelsea and city can write off debt this year but teh rules prevent that from 2012 onwards, Manyoo are lucky in the amountof revenue they bring in but are still some £400mil in debt and will struggle to shift that after this year is done.

    Real are the same as manyoo but with less debt, currently Barca are fooked and i dont think its a surprise they have sigend a commercial sponsorhip this season instead of their UNICEF sponsor.

    Seriously next summer will be dull as hell cos there wont be any huge deals as clubs just cant justify the spend against income. No-one is saying they cant have debt put you have to pay it off rather than just letting it continue endlessly

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    The way I see it is that it's almost irrelevant what our rivals do because we consistently make basic errors and show a worrying lack of a composure when dealing with pressure, it's been going on for many years and that is why I put the blame right at Wenger's door. He has his hands burnt every year by the players he's invested so much time and faith in, yet almost without fail, he overlooks the glaring problems and thinks their "spirit, maturity, character" etc will carry them through. He's a soft touch and I bet most of his players don't give a fuck about the purist ideology he tries to force on them.

    This is why I don't take any notice of what others do. City and Chelsea can go and spend whatever they like, yet I guarantee we will match them blow for blow next season until we lose our bottle because the manager is not strong enough to get a reaction out of his players.
    Last edited by Marc Overmars; 08-06-2011 at 02:35 PM.

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