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    This is Morata from last season from opta



    And an article analyzing his play from The Tactics Room last season

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    Its on.......lots of photos circulating

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ind...client=safari#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Not being funny but he looks under virtually no pressure in most of the clips......I do find it interesting that because of the price tag, we are kind of taking it as read that he is any good and many seem to have formed a strong opinion already when he has something of a modest reputation.
    Don't worry, Wenger will play him out of position and make him shit. Wenger out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    Its on.......lots of photos circulating

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ind...client=safari#
    It's on? It's done

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    I called it for Aaron and Jack to start in front of Xhaka which is much different than what your post suggests. In the past, they started as just two in the midfield. Completely different than what I have advocated.

    Xhaka does the job of what Coqzorla did. Why would you want two players to perform two different roles when one guy does both and does it at an elite level? It doesn't make sense.

    And Ramsey is the best athlete we have in the middle who can help when defending and attacking. The guy was a dominant midfielder for 18 months and what was common was having a guy build in the first phase like Arteta. Xhaka is that version of Arteta x2. It's no coincidence Ramsey form dipped when Arteta fell off.

    And this helps Wilshere as it should allow him to get on the pitch and carry the ball like he does a great job at. Either he or Cazorla since Jack more than likely will be injured.

    Xhaka and Ramsey and Wilshere are 3 different types of midfielders. Just like Scholes and Keane were different types of midfielders. I wouldn't ask Xhaka to get forward and create in the final 3rd just like Ramsey is not adept at collecting the ball from the center backs. It's not about who takes responsibility of the midfield but who does their role on the pitch.

    Ramsey's form didn't dip with the decline of Arteta. They've played together plenty of times.

    In the 2011/12 season, Ramsey had a whole season with Song and Arteta sitting behind him. A prime Arteta and Song in great form for us. Ramsey was playing the majority of his games in the AM role where he didn't have to worry about defending. He was 'liberated'. Total freedom in that role. He managed 3 goals and 6 assists in all comps.

    2012/13 Ramsey was paired with Arteta as a CM for a good bulk of games. 2 goals and 4 assists in all comps. This is the season fans started to get on his case because he was playing poorly. He had a prime Arteta right next to him.

    2013/14 is his season where he goes on a scoring streak. Half the goals he scored with Arteta beside him, the other half was without Arteta. I'd argue something just started to click for him in this particular season. Nothing to do with who he was paired with because he'd be in beast mode even when played with Flamini.

    2014/15 and he's back to old tricks. We started the season with Arteta, Wilshere and Ramsey playing together in a 4-3-3 in very much the same way you're saying we should play when Xhaka arrives. It was a disaster and only until each of those guys got injured and we stumbled upon Coquelin and Cazorla did we start playing well again. Arteta may have been in decline but looking on the past few seasons Ramsey had with Arteta, 2013/14 was just the odd season. A purple patch where he found his shooting boots.

    I hope Xhaka helps Ramsey find his 2014/14 form but I wouldn't count on it. We don't have to accommodate him and it's up to him to fight for his place. But if Xhaka is the answer to Ramsey's game, then we should see Ramsey back scoring goals, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    2012/13 Ramsey was paired with Arteta as a CM for a good bulk of games. 2 goals and 4 assists in all comps. This is the season fans started to get on his case because he was playing poorly. He had a prime Arteta right next to him.
    Then that spring he turned into a Titan but you weren't paying attention.

    The match that sticks the most out was when our fans wanted Fellaini and we played them and Ramsey beasted on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Then that spring he turned into a Titan but you weren't paying attention.

    The match that sticks the most out was when our fans wanted Fellaini and we played them and Ramsey beasted on him.

    His form of picked up later in the season but was he scoring goals? 2 goals all season. He started doing the basics and that led into him having a strong start to the 2012/13 season.

    Has he breasted on anyone since? Was this just a purple patch? I don't think someone doing the basics further back field will help his game. He doesn't need freedom. He needs to be pulled in and told to keep it simple and the rest will flow. It's not as if he's lethal and consistent in the box either. His touch and finishing can sometimes let him down. He used to get it badly wrong at the other end of the pitch and we've seen some of that this season. I really don't know if giving him the freedom to roam further forward is the answer.

    I think he needs a coach to get in his ear so let's hope he has a good Euros. I think his run off goo form started at International level and was totally different to how he was playing at club level before his purple patch. Again, I'm just saying I think it's more down to coaching and Ramsey sorting his head out over him needing a specific player next to him. As said, I'd you were laying attention to his best season with us you'd see he was playing well with Flamini and even Wilshere in the middle with no Arteta in sight? What does that tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    It's on? It's done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post

    Has he breasted on anyone since?

    I think he needs a coach to get in his ear so let's hope he has a good Euros. I think his run off goo form started ....
    'WHEN HE HAS A PLAN, WE BACK HIM, WHEN HE DOESN'T......WE KEEP QUIET'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Thought he was talking about Nasri, so it made sense.
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