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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    So...if City win 4-0 on the last day and we lose 4-0 to Southampton then City will finish above us on goals scored.
    Or more realistically we lose to Saints say 2-0 or 3-1 and Citeh win at Fulham by a margin of 6, which in previous seasons you wouldn't bet against

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Or more realistically we lose to Saints say 2-0 or 3-1 and Citeh win at Fulham by a margin of 6, which in previous seasons you wouldn't bet against
    In today’s edition of “things that aren’t going to happen”.

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    careful, you're drifting into HCZ territory by saying 'aren't going' rather than 'very unlikely to happen' - which ofc it is and I absolutely don't expect it, hence my point about 'in previous seasons' - this year's Citeh can't pull off big wins like they used to though they did recently put 5 past Palace (though yes they were 2-0 down before they recovered)

    I wouldn't rule out our failing to beat Saints though, we're clearly kanackered, our defence is decimated and now have (almost) nothing to play for

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    I wouldn't rule that out either but Southampton would have to beat us and I can't see that happening. I expect City to win but not by a margin which would cause us to worry even if we did happen to lose.

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    End of season dead rubbers can be unpredictable but even with us being on the beach, I highly doubt the second worst team the league has ever seen will be troubling us that much. Even if they do, who cares. There won’t be an 8 goal swing. City have the Club World Cup to prepare for and won’t be going all out against a decent Fulham team.
    Last edited by Marc Overmars; 21-05-2025 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    careful, you're drifting into HCZ territory by saying 'aren't going' rather than 'very unlikely to happen' - which ofc it is and I absolutely don't expect it, hence my point about 'in previous seasons' - this year's Citeh can't pull off big wins like they used to though they did recently put 5 past Palace (though yes they were 2-0 down before they recovered)

    I wouldn't rule out our failing to beat Saints though, we're clearly kanackered, our defence is decimated and now have (almost) nothing to play for
    I’ve got my own home, whilst it’s nice to let me live rent free in your head….its really unnecessary

    And it’s also doubly inappropriate for a man who argues from binaries to accuse other people of speaking in absolutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’ve got my own home, whilst it’s nice to let me live rent free in your head….its really unnecessary

    And it’s also doubly inappropriate for a man who argues from binaries to accuse other people of speaking in absolutes
    I'm actually one of the people to use nuance on here tbh, rather than the usual 'they're shit' / 'they're great' social media standard of football discussion

    It's you that talks in absolutes and traps themselves in foolish unequivocal statements about players, likely results and so on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    I'm actually one of the people to use nuance on here tbh, rather than the usual 'they're shit' / 'they're great' social media standard of football discussion

    It's you that talks in absolutes and traps themselves in foolish unequivocal statements about players, likely results and so on
    No you really don’t talk in nuance at all

    To the point where you seemingly can’t tell the difference between opinion and assertion of fact

    To the point where you make unequivocal “you’re wrong” statements about opinions I offer

    Take Eze for example, it’s not exactly brimming with nuance to say “oh he has goals and assists so you’re wrong to question his footballing brain”

    I’d actually say the way he played on Saturday would be evidence of him having more of a footballing brain than I’ve previously suggested, because it was a complete and clever performance. That’s far more than what I’d ever seen of him previously where he’s been little more than a quick and strong meathead

    Then we go on to Gyokeres where you still can’t even admit that there’s no where, where I’ve unequivocally stated he couldn’t make it in the premier league, my argument is that I have profound doubts about it

    I’m not the one who claims because Leicester city win the title ten years ago, it unequivocally pisses on the idea that in the main the club with the most money and the best players win things which as consequence makes it so that a manager/head coach isn’t quite as much the difference maker as we think (thus my argument that as long as the squad and the setup is good, who the coach is…isn’t as relevant..I’d argue that both Brighton and to a degree Liverpool are examples of this)

    So in respect of your nuance, to paraphrase the Wendy’s advert that Walter Mondale ripped off “where’s the beef?”

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    Let’s be fair, you almost tried to start down the “you’re wrong” path because I said I didn’t feel at all worried that Spurs would win the Champions League. “How could you possibly know they wouldn’t” - I didn’t know they wouldn’t, I just dismissed the idea that they would and it turned out my nonchalance was merited, could have gone another way of course and in no way did I suggest other people were wrong to feel worried

    But in the end, trying to continue a row about that was obviously too ridiculous even for you

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    Anyway turning this thread back to the topic at hand, a bit of uncharacteristic magnanimity from me

    Kevin De Bruyne

    I despise the club he plays for, to the point where I’d love nothing more than every league medal he’s ever won to be stripped from him. But as an individual player, I think he’s easily one of the best players ever to have played in the premier league.

    The hilarity for me is that he started out for Chelsea, but Jose Felix didn’t rate him and it meant them having to watch as he tore things up for another team

    No idea what kind of person he is and I care even less, but an incredible talent….in a way unlucky not to win something with Belgium. Him and Hazard in the World Cup in Russia were exceptional

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