Vermaelen Surgery?

[Daniele]

he couldn't even chest the ball down and pass it. wasn't even able to run like an athlete.

[Niall_Quinn]

Weren't the same people saying we shouldn't make excuses for Koscielny blaming Zack Knight for Boltons defensive shocker vs Liverpool?

Reality is that you need a stable back 4. If you can get the same 4 players playing 20 games or more they'll be half decent. All this chopping and changing throughout the side is no good.

If all the defenders in the PL were lined up and we got to pick 5, who would we pick? How far down the list would Kos, JD and Squid be? A long way down I'm thinking. You can have 4 out of 5 at the back doing a great job but one sub-standard player can bring it all down. We're supposed to be a top PL club, that's the image being given out by the board and the manager anyway. 2% away from greatness they tell us. Unlucky all the time, had too many injuries, the fixture list is crooked, Internationals are getting in the way, the refs are against us, excuses, excuses. Fact is we haven't spent enough to be genuinely up there challenging. We have sub-standard players in key positions and - as we have seen (have we not?) - Kos is one of them. Djourou is another, Squid is a joke and Chamakh is shit. You hire shit and you get a shit job. TV is not the best defender in the world but he's up to the job. More like him, less like Kos and JD and the defence is sorted. We should have bought another decent CB in the window. We didn't, we'll pay the price instead in terms of poor results on the pitch.

[Daniele]

If all the defenders in the PL were lined up and we got to pick 5, who would we pick? How far down the list would Kos, JD and Squid be? A long way down I'm thinking. You can have 4 out of 5 at the back doing a great job but one sub-standard player can bring it all down. We're supposed to be a top PL club, that's the image being given out by the board and the manager anyway. 2% away from greatness they tell us. Unlucky all the time, had too many injuries, the fixture list is crooked, Internationals are getting in the way, the refs are against us, excuses, excuses. Fact is we haven't spent enough to be genuinely up there challenging. We have sub-standard players in key positions and - as we have seen (have we not?) - Kos is one of them. Djourou is another, Squid is a joke and Chamakh is shit. You hire shit and you get a shit job. TV is not the best defender in the world but he's up to the job. More like him, less like Kos and JD and the defence is sorted. We should have bought another decent CB in the window. We didn't, we'll pay the price instead in terms of poor results on the pitch.

I'd pick Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany, Terry and Luiz. Kos and Djourou wouldn't even make my top 10. Or 20.

[AKBapologist]

If all the defenders in the PL were lined up and we got to pick 5, who would we pick? How far down the list would Kos, JD and Squid be? A long way down I'm thinking. You can have 4 out of 5 at the back doing a great job but one sub-standard player can bring it all down. We're supposed to be a top PL club, that's the image being given out by the board and the manager anyway. 2% away from greatness they tell us. Unlucky all the time, had too many injuries, the fixture list is crooked, Internationals are getting in the way, the refs are against us, excuses, excuses. Fact is we haven't spent enough to be genuinely up there challenging. We have sub-standard players in key positions and - as we have seen (have we not?) - Kos is one of them. Djourou is another, Squid is a joke and Chamakh is shit. You hire shit and you get a shit job. TV is not the best defender in the world but he's up to the job. More like him, less like Kos and JD and the defence is sorted. We should have bought another decent CB in the window. We didn't, we'll pay the price instead in terms of poor results on the pitch.

Mate, there are stats from pro-zone to fantasy footy that show exactly what your talking about. Form changes, the biggest factor? Injuries. There was a period last year on which Kos and DJ were in the top 5. Then what happened? Same happened with united and chelsea's defence tbh. Stability is good and often enables players to find some form.

Wasn't helped by the fact Squilliaci is exceptionally shit mind.

[Dog Toffee]

Best he had this surgery early on in the season, hopefully he'l recover quickly and wont have recurring problems. It sucks we wont have him for at least a month but good decision to have surgery IMO.

[Maestro]

I'd pick Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany, Terry and Luiz. Kos and Djourou wouldn't even make my top 10. Or 20.

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I'd pick Terry, Vidic, Ferdinand, Hangeland, Kompany, Jagielka, Luiz, Vermaelen, Cahill ...then Lescott, Smalling, Jones and your Ridgewell, Dann, Agger, Skertel, Gallas ......

maybe even a few more out there before I even contemplate Kos, Djourou or god forbid the Squid. Of the 80 or so registered CB's in the league I rate them at around at best 30th upwards in the ranking. I reserve full judgement on The Mert until I see him in action in this league, but again he is well ahead of our trajic trio.

Their mistakes are so elementary and consistently repeated. Simply not good enough for the level we aspire.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Verms being out = pooh and not of the Winnie the variety!

I used to think Djouru had some upside but so do 80% of participants of the Berlin Gay Pride march by the sounds of it so not sure if that is such a good thing......he was absolute crap against Utd......what is with the hands behind the back thing that seems to be the rage at the moment? (saw Smalling doing it against Bulgaria) - obvious answer is to prevent the risk handball but it also gives a more space for a player with the ball to skip through, because if you are too slow to react ala Gay Lion then you are asking for trouble.

Kos is better but only when he has someone better than him playing alongside.......and with Verms out the 'pooh' reaction in herewith explained!

Merts I hope will look after Baby Kos cos () no one else can.......Squid? - FuckOff

[Master Splinter]

JSAO is close to complete malfunction .

That behind the back thing and ushering players to the touch line and consequently failing is hilarious, but mostly suicidal when Djourou does it.

Djourou I remember when he was good for about 10 games.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Like i said, conveniently forget the good run of games he had, something which Kos hasnt had.

Good wumming though

just like you have forgotten the run of games he had last year, around xmas time till cc final where we concededed fuck all

[Ollie the Optimist]

and im glad to see some have written merts off without him even playing a game