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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster View Post
    1)Arsene Wenger is the most successfull Arsenal F.C manager of all time
    2)We are top of the league.
    3) We have qualified for the champions league ahead of Spurs who have spent far more and achieved far less.
    4) Who do we replace him with? (Ozil stated he joined mainly because of Arsene Wenger, who called him, spoke in GErman and persuaded him Arsenal was the best place for him.
    5) Arsenal F.C have, whilst qualifying for Cl every since the Cl started, achieved a profit that equals/almost equals, i cant remember, the profit made by every other PL club put together! (I think this is true)
    6)Who do replace him with please?

    Ive yet to hear a convincing argument as to who would do a better job. I believe this is because all that call for Wengers head are reactionist fools who have no sight of the long term. AW is a genius manager who brought us into a new staium and has found a way to keep us in the top four despite Man City and Chelsea having unlimited cash, or financial doping as the great man once put it.

    Just look at Spurs (lol) who have changed manager time and time again, spent FAR more than us, and achieved FAR less.

    Arsene Wenger is a one in a million manager who we need to keep as long as the human boday can keep a man managing a football club for.

    You are exactly the kind of Arsenal fan that the board wants. Let me take you back to the early days of success for Wenger & building work on-site at Highbury. We asked Wembley if we could play our Champions League games there & got 80,000+ for a few home games - WOW thought the board, if we had a bigger ground we could make alot more money from the poor bastards on the 8 year waiting list at Highbury. But how can we get our fans to agree to move from the History of Highbury. Well, that's easy, we'll tell them that we're doing it to become the biggest club in England & compete with the best in the world. These were words echoed by Arsene.
    What they forget to tell us was that this would all take about 10 years, just incase some of us didn't want to buy a season ticket to watch us consistantly trying to finish fourth by doing exactly the opposite of what we were promised - "competing".

    As Arsenal fans we are all living on former glory - Wenger's early success gave us the need for a bigger stadium but the difference was how we view success. Fans like you view it through a lovely stadium with money in the bank, others want what we were promised. Another few years of Wenger & we won't need the Emirates - we'll ground swap with Orient & give that prick Hearn the big stadium he wants so that his 4,000 fans can go & have a dozen seats each.

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    Do you seriously think we'd have stayed in the top 4 had we stayed at Highbury?
    I realise that shouldn't be the only aim but we've got more chance of competing if we stay in the top 4 than had we slipped into mid-table.

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    If we were still at Highbury we'd be fucked right now.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GayPete View Post
    If we were still at Highbury we'd be fucked right now.
    If you want to be a self-sufficient club, sooner or later we would've needed to make the step up. Even the spuds realise that and I've always said I respect the way they've handled the club at upper management. Now it's clear we are fucking loaded and sustain higher wage bills and high transfer fees with the higher revenues coming in. Exciting times ahead, it seems. Shame FFP is a fairytale myth but even so we should compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Do you seriously think we'd have stayed in the top 4 had we stayed at Highbury?
    I realise that shouldn't be the only aim but we've got more chance of competing if we stay in the top 4 than had we slipped into mid-table.
    Absolutely - if we had bought sensibly & strengthened the Invincibles team with like for like players & then got rid of the dead-wood on the board, let Mr Dein bring in his Russian mate to give us some spending money why the hell not. Chelsea have a shit awful stadium & they have won the C.L Ffs - not just qualified.
    Why on earth would we have slipped into mid-table - they doesn't say alot for the "wonders of Wenger"

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    We’d have stayed top four at Highbury. Man Utd and Chelsea were the only teams with crazy spending power back then and we weakened our team as a result of the move to the Emirates. We’d probably have serious problems now sustaining top four now that the teams below us have gotten better with more money and better managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We’d have stayed top four at Highbury. Man Utd and Chelsea were the only teams with crazy spending power back then and we weakened our team as a result of the move to the Emirates. We’d probably have serious problems now sustaining top four now that the teams below us have gotten better with more money and better managers.
    Thank god for this post - there are some sense on GW this afternoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    Thank god for this post - there are some sense on GW this afternoon
    He's basically saying you're talking rubbish and that we needed the move.

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    A bit rich questioning the move a bigger stadium. Sure some dishonesty was involved, as the whole truth wasn't told about how long it would take us to start competing on the pitch again, but it appears to be paying off now. Bit late, but as the old saying goes, better late than never.

    We've been patient...... well some of us, ie (I'm not even part if that 'us' ffs), and now we've just made our record signing. And what a signing it was. Brighter days seem ahead, and I'm willing to tentatively have some faith in Wenger, at least till January through May, to see what exactly was this vision he used to convince Ozil to come here.

    If I'm left feeling duped again, then so be it. Comes with the territory of being a passionate supporter of the Club I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    If you want to be a self-sufficient club, sooner or later we would've needed to make the step up. Even the spuds realise that and I've always said I respect the way they've handled the club at upper management. Now it's clear we are fucking loaded and sustain higher wage bills and high transfer fees with the higher revenues coming in. Exciting times ahead, it seems. Shame FFP is a fairytale myth but even so we should compete.


    Really, this whole argument comes down to short-term glory vs long-term security. Would we have stayed in the top 4 over the last few years if we'd stayed at Highbury? I think absolutely yes we would have, and, what's more, I think we'd have won a lot more along the way too. Would we have been able to stay there and continue winning trophies going forward? I'm not so sure. I mean, anything's possible in football, but our main rivals would have had a huge advantage over us each year, and the job would become increasingly more difficult as the financial gap continued to widen, and the number of piranhas in the tank continued to grow. I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but, as you say, you only need to look at clubs like sp**s and liverpool, who are desperate to do the same, to know that it was probably a necessary move. That's what I'm clinging to anyway - after all, why would a club like sp**s, who are so painfully close to cracking the top 4, be looking to put themselves through 5-10 years of restricted budgets, if they didn't feel they had to?
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