match reaction v citeh

[Özim]

It unfortunately is. Zims posts are not anti-arsenal, they are anti-Wenger.

Nail on the head, I love Arsenal, I don't love Wenger's Arsenal, not as it has been since he switched from counter attacking football to tippy tappy, since then for me it's been nothing but frustration and disappointment, not just because we don't win trophies, but because realistically we never will with a manager who is so stubborn, stuck in his ways and refuses to accept the failings of his team.

Having to listen to him coming out with the BS he does really doesn't help either, people might say you can ignore it, but you really can't, when you hear what he says and see what happens every season you can only come to the conclusion that there is at least some truth in what he says about his belief about the quality of the team he has and team which he conveniently has let him down time and time again (someone asked him about this recently and he skirted around the issue and failed to answer the question).

[Özim]

Zim, you are a top poster my man. Haters gonna hate. They are 2% away from interpreting facts.

Thanks Bud, I rate you too, some people might not agree with you but you make your point and stick to your guns when you believe something.

[Özim]

The worrying thing is that we pretty much never confound our critics. Letters is right - fans should get behind their team. But my God - if any fans have stuck by their team and manager these past few years it has been Gooners. As fans, we have seen our bragging rights eroded to a miserable extent. And we have believed in all the promises that have been made. Wenger has done much for our club, and he deserves our gratitude - but he has benefited from us as well - and any fan is entitled to take the view that Zimm does.

As usual a good well thought through post, it's too black and white for many, you seem to be able to read between the lines better than many others.

[IBK]

As usual a good well thought through post, it's too black and white for many, you seem to be able to read between the lines better than many others.

I accept that some Gooners see the positives in what we have achieved. And there are positives. But I dislike the way we have been conditioned to defend what is often indefensible. Very few clubs qualify failure to win like we do. And I'm beginning to struggle to see what good its really doing us.

[Power n Glory]

Nail on the head, I love Arsenal, I don't love Wenger's Arsenal, not as it has been since he switched from counter attacking football to tippy tappy, since then for me it's been nothing but frustration and disappointment, not just because we don't win trophies, but because realistically we never will with a manager who is so stubborn, stuck in his ways and refuses to accept the failings of his team.

Having to listen to him coming out with the BS he does really doesn't help either, people might say you can ignore it, but you really can't, when you hear what he says and see what happens every season you can only come to the conclusion that there is at least some truth in what he says about his belief about the quality of the team he has and team which he conveniently has let him down time and time again (someone asked him about this recently and he skirted around the issue and failed to answer the question).

You shouldn't have to explain yourself - fuck em'! Especially not to Letters!

The result against City was way too late and we'll need a serious run and luck to get back into this title race. Hopefully, we stop hiding behind the Billionaire Boys Club money as an excuse for poor results and poor tactics. If teams like Palace and Wigan can get results against them, we should be able to.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I take the odd swipe at Zimm sometimes, just for a laugh

But he's been spot on about wenger for years and I now think along the same lines as he does.

Really when you look at it on the whole, we have watched the same things happen each season for 10 years.

10 years!!
10 bloody frustrating years!!!!

Ok so this time we might win a trophy, but even now at this stage, my confidence in the team to pull it off is at an all time low and I actually think we stand more chance of bottling it again when the time comes.

That's why I think wenger should walk at seasons end even if we win it.

It's time for some major changes, starting with the guy in charge of the team.

[Dein-machine]

You shouldn't have to explain yourself - fuck em'! Especially not to Letters!

The result against City was way too late and we'll need a serious run and luck to get back into this title race. Hopefully, we stop hiding behind the Billionaire Boys Club money as an excuse for poor results and poor tactics. If teams like Palace and Wigan can get results against them, we should be able to.

This - the Billionaires club haven't stopped Liverpool reaching top of the league so why is it an excuse for us. We are now in a dog-race for 4th with a team very limited on spending compared to others inc us. Liverpool & Everton will be seen as the most improved teams this year, how many billions did they spend in both transfer windows?

[Maestro]

every single thread on here has descended into a wenger in/out, pro/anti and associated fuckery

is anyone still modding on here

[KSE Comedy Club]

every single thread on here has descended into a wenger in/out, pro/anti and associated fuckery

is anyone still modding on here

All roads lead to rome, as they say.

[Injury Time]

every single thread on here has descended into a wenger in/out, pro/anti and associated fuckery

is anyone still modding on here

Welcome to Goonersweb, you must be new. Most don't stay long tbf