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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Still after all these years. Letters knows how to hold a grudge
    After years of you fuckers going on and on about how incompetent Wenger was, how anyone would do better and me being pilloried if I dared suggest that might be a bit simplistic.
    Not a grudge no, but yeah, I’ll take the opportunity to say “I bloody told you so!”



    Which doesn’t mean Wenger should have stayed or that I want him back of course, but any suggestion that he wasn’t the worst football manager around was met with howls of derision.

    So, in brief




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    No.

    It didn’t matter to most whether we became relegation fodder. People just wanted change for better or worse.

    Now we again want change, but for the better. Because we seem to have dispelled the Wenger overlordship, and removed some of the spidersweb he wove that was holding the whole club back.

    We have more structure now. So the club is in a better place. We just need a better manager.

    With Wenger it was going from bad to worse, and becoming toxic through every root and branch. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forwards.

    Emery won’t take is forward however.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    That’s all fine, and I actually agree with most of that.
    Even if this season does end up being worse than Wenger’s last season, overall we are in a better place because Emery is easier to get rid of than Wenger.
    It’s the difference between divorcing a wife of 20 years who you have kids with and leaving a girlfriend you’ve been with 6 months.

    BUT, the thing which pissed me off over the last few years is it wasn’t enough to believe Wenger should go.
    I’ll admit I was late to that party. I kept faith with him too long.
    But towards the end simply wanting him gone wasn’t good enough on here.
    You had to believe that Wenger was the worst manager in football.
    Literally anyone would do better.
    If I gently suggested that was a bit simplistic and while Wenger had become a problem, the club had other problems which removing him wouldn’t fix then I was “sucking Wenger’s cock” and clearly wanted him to stay.
    It all got so extreme and ridiculous.

    Anyway, Emery isn’t taking us anywhere, I’m disappointed as I honestly thought he’d give us a bit more. I can’t even work out what he’s trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    EVen though I wouldn't want Mourinho near he made an interesting comment
    "I Think the biggest problem down there is that they are not doing the obvious things correctly like they’re not playing the correct players in the correct positions...they’re not starting their best players, players like Lucas Torreira who I personally feel was one of the best players in the last World Cup and also for Arsenal playing as the base defensive midfielder, I really don’t understand this situation and also Özil...you have to understand that Mesut is not Messi or Ronaldo, he won’t carry your team single handed, he’s more of a creative genius and a creative genius is only as good as the attack in front of him, all these years at Arsenal he did not have the right players in front of him and now when he does, for some reason he is omitted entirely, people say he is lazy but they can’t be more wrong, Özil works very hard and the football for him it’s not a job like most of the players these days, football is his life, he enjoys football ...In England I have got the idea that people here will prefer guys who can run and run and run for 90 minutes, so even when those guys have a bad game people will say oh atleast he gave it his all, people in England don’t welcome smart runners and Özil is a smart runner...so I think people in England will take a runner over a creative genius.[On what would be Arsenal's best xi] I’d say Leno, Bellerin, Holding, David Luiz, Tierney, Lucas Torreira, Ceballos, Özil, Pepe, Aubameyang, Lacazette. “Why no Guendouzi?” Guendouzi is a fantastic talent but in my career I’ve seen time and time again youngsters with immense talent do nothing because they started starting regularly for their clubs and their desire to improve went with that, they became stale , I don’t want Guendouzi to end up like that, he has leadership qualities as well...I will like to say one thing that Arsenal on paper have one one of the best attacks in the league but are suffering from a lack of creativity"
    I won't believe Mourinho said this until I see some video evidence- in fact that still wouldn't be enough to convince me!!

    Whoever wrote this has been really paying attention to us and if it indeed came from a manager with any repute- he deserves to replace Emery immediately.

    I really can't believe Emery is so obtuse that he can't see all of this- especially the Guendozi part. Wow, the whole analysis is just so perfect, wow
    Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 29-10-2019 at 10:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    That’s all fine, and I actually agree with most of that.
    Even if this season does end up being worse than Wenger’s last season, overall we are in a better place because Emery is easier to get rid of than Wenger.
    It’s the difference between divorcing a wife of 20 years who you have kids with and leaving a girlfriend you’ve been with 6 months.

    BUT, the thing which pissed me off over the last few years is it wasn’t enough to believe Wenger should go.
    I’ll admit I was late to that party. I kept faith with him too long.
    But towards the end simply wanting him gone wasn’t good enough on here.
    You had to believe that Wenger was the worst manager in football.
    Literally anyone would do better.

    If I gently suggested that was a bit simplistic and while Wenger had become a problem, the club had other problems which removing him wouldn’t fix then I was “sucking Wenger’s cock” and clearly wanted him to stay.
    It all got so extreme and ridiculous.

    Anyway, Emery isn’t taking us anywhere, I’m disappointed as I honestly thought he’d give us a bit more. I can’t even work out what he’s trying to do.
    I think it had got to the point that it was the only option left to get the message across and get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.
    In the end the result was correct.

    Unfortunately, we ended up making do with a great power point presentation rather then a coach that would actually be strong and good enough to take us forward.

    I always said I would give him three seasons to make his mark, but he isn't good enough to get two, sadly
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    News story doing the rounds today, not just from one outlet either


    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-Emery-Arsenal

    Jose Mourinho may be in line to replace Unai Emery at Arsenal as Special One eyes comeback

    Arsenal could turn to Jose Mourinho if they decide to part ways with Unai Emery.
    Arsenal are reportedly looking to hire Jose Mourinho if they decide to call time on Unai Emery’s tenure at the Emirates.

    Emery is currently under intense pressure in north London, which has increased after Arsenal threw away a two-goal lead at home to Crystal Palace on Sunday.
    The Gunners have won just two of their last five Premier League games, and are already losing ground in the race for the top four.
    Instead of catching up with fourth-place Chelsea, who are four points ahead of them, they are more concerned with the drop behind them, with three points separating themselves from 11th-placed arch rivals Tottenham.
    And, with Emery’s position believed to be under serious threat, Mourinho is to be the ideal candidate, according to The Sun.

    The Portuguese boss has been without a club since last December, when he was sacked by Manchester United.

    The ‘Chosen One’ had been tipped to return to Real Madrid, with Zinedine Zidane under pressure at the Bernabeu.
    Real have dropped down to sixth in La Liga, and have failed to get the best out of their £275million summer acquisitions.
    However, after last week’s Champions League win over Galatasaray, it is believed Zidane’s position is not under immediate threat.

    This leaves Arsenal as one of the most viable options for Mourinho.

    According to Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas, the 56-year-old has already decided on his next role.
    Earlier this month, he confirmed he attempted to hire Mourinho, but was rejected.

    Aulas said: “We had some fairly flattering exchanges over SMS. It was nice for everyone.

    "He did not accept our proposal to meet because he has already chosen another club."

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    I would literally rather eat shit.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    I doubt this is based on much other than Mourinho may be sniffing around PL clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I would literally rather eat shit.
    Mourinho is an intelligent man and would probably do a good job for 2 years before it all turns to shit.

    He will not become manager at Arsenal because Emery is very popular with Stan and Josh.

    We all know what Mourinho is but how much do we all want Arsenal to get into the top 4 and challenge Man City and Liverpool ?

    That is a billion miles away at the moment.

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