#Originally Posted by Grebbo
Ok, he's better than Luiz and Ivanovic at Chelsea.
He's definitely better than Smalling and Evans at Man U, and I'd argue he's better than Jones who's too young and Ferdinand, who's too old.
He's better than everyone except Kompany at Citeh.
He's better than everyone at Liverpool and Spurs if we want to go that far down.
He's better than Djourou and Squillaci but not Vermalen imo, complement each other nicely though.
he's a good defender who will improve but i can't agree with all those comparisons.
Agger, Carragher, Richards, Kompany, Dawson, Gallas, Ferdinand, Vidic, Terry, Ivanovic, Luiz, Alex....all better than Koscielny.
I guess it's pretty subjective but I only see 5 or 6 guys better than him.
Dawson
Carragher???
Wow! I'm sorry but you're as deluded as Wenger.
C'mon, I'm not THAT bad.
Wenger is an idiot. For years he wasted valuable time playing Cesc with odd pairings. The type of tactical decisions no other top class manager would make.
In a 4-4-2, he plays Cesc alongside Gilberto, while Eboue and Diaby are getting games on the flanks.
He should have switched to a 4-3-3 years ago with Flamini, Rosicky/Hleb and Cesc in the middle. I knew as soon as we'd switch to that formation that Cesc would be able to make unmarked runs into the box and start banging in more goals. It works for Lampard and Cesc is better than Lampard. Even when he decided to switch to a 4-3-3 he had Cesc playing with Denilson and Song behind him instead of adopting a more aggressive style with Nasri and Cesc playing in the middle and Song holding.
Nasri was a different player when France played a 4-3-3 with him and Gourcuff controlling the middle. Our 4-3-3 is easy to break down because it's dependent on one player conducting the play, but in other teams they always have two creative players in the middle that can protect the ball and create. One sits deeper while the other roams forward and supports the top three players. Or they take it in turns to drop back and go forward. Denilson was no good sitting deep or playing further forward and was often lost in traffic. We wasted a couple of seasons messing around with that guy and it was plain to see that he wasn't right for what we were trying to do.
We never had that system going and we were close with Wilshere coming into the picture, but still Wenger insisted on playing Wilshere in the deeper role over Cesc which made no sense to me. Wilshere is way more agile and quick to turn and run on the ball while while Cesc can spot a run from the half way line and put the ball on a plate for you.
I just can't understand Wenger. For too many seasons he's played square pegs in round holes and that's another thing that really pisses me off about him and why he has to go. He hasn't made do with what he's been given. It's not just Cesc, it goes all the way back to Reyes, Hleb, Rosicky, Nasri, Walcott, Bendy, Eboue, Diaby, Vela, Eduardo...he's spent seasons playing them in the wrong position and it has taken it's toll.
Hmmm...I think Chamakh is a truly awful signing, but we did get him on a free, so Wenger ought to be given a pass on that one.
I think, Koscielny is a very good signing, he has bags of promise, some of which we saw in flashes last season. I'd love to see him have a season long injury free partnership with Vermalaen.
I got nothing to say about Squillaci.
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My goodness AW has really fucked with some of you. Koscielny is nowhere as good as All Bran & Ferdinand. Luiz is a bit too quick in the tackle sometimes (as witnessed against ManUtd last season) but he is still a much better CB than Koscielny.
Fact is none if your CB would start for Chelsea & ManUtd which is where your problems begin (build from the back and all that). The only positive thing about your defence is Scxujsdkoeofle. If he keeps going on as he has been he'll be a fucking world class GK no question.
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