Couldn’t even beat Matt Hancock’s performance in the jungle
Not sure PM Farage is coming anytime soon
Couldn’t even beat Matt Hancock’s performance in the jungle
Not sure PM Farage is coming anytime soon
Farage is someone who is vastly oversold in terms of popularity. He has high name recognition, and I think is quite charismatic as well. But no there isn’t this great clamour for him to be prime minister, apart from Brexit/immigration no one really has any idea what he stands for.
Amongst leave voters he does not poll very well. And really GB News, I’m a celebrity and other light fluff are the apex of his career.
Entirely unrealistic and, most likely, bitter reading of a guy who galvanised the British people to achieve something close on impossible, the defeat of the establishment in what was thought to be a foregone conclusion referendum. That would be the apex. Few could achieve it and nobody is in doubt what he stood for on that occasion. In fact it would be nice to see similar commitment from the garbage human beings who, for some reason, are viewed as viable candidates. You know, like the two tossers who are bought and paid for and will stand as puppets in the next election? What can you tell me about those two, in comparison to Farage? You're right, Farage has no chance of winning an election, but is that because the polled voters are so considerate and knowledgable, or is it more to do with the unwarranted legitimacy foisted on quislings by the establishment media?
If the elections and democracy and all that jazz was in any way real, none of these politicians (including Farage) would be anywhere near public office. We'd elect competent candidates that had at least a shred of integrity, would we not? In our own interests, even if principle eluded us. Instead we get Blair and Cameron and Johnson and the unelected tool currently in office. And then back to Blair once the Labour puppet gets in. How many people wanted these fuckheads, like really wanted them rather than choosing the least worst of what was presented in the fait accompli that always precedes a "democratic" election?
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It’s quite likely leave would have won without him, despite inserting himself into the campaign, so again another example of his influence being oversold. I think you’re under the misapprehension that I have some bitterness against him, I don’t really have any regard for him positive or negative. He’s clearly an intelligent individual, a good public speaker, can think on his feet but for all that rather vacuous.
Kind of like you (the vacuous bit) but without the need to be garrulous with it
Yeah, I don't think Farage moved the dial that much in terms of the referendum. Boris and his bus were bigger factors, as was the awful Remain campaign.
Guys, you are absolutely right. Farage had little influence on the referendum. What a bore though, considering a lot of the history from that time was in print. Maybe it's easier to burn the books rather than rewrite them all?
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Strange how you can see there are enough words present to claim I'm garrulous, and yet only a fraction of them are considered in your answer. I guess you don't like the context I placed your original bullshit into? That being the context of reality. Tell me some more about these credible figures that make Farage look insignificant. Which titan are you endorsing this time?
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You see my point I would think that you managed to turn I disagree into a paragraph.
But of course you don’t disagree, I’m wrong…because you’re right about everything especially when you’re wrong
The fact that UKIP managed at its zenith to get 13% of the vote at a General Election, and most leave voters were already existing Tory voters or defaulted to the Tories post referendum.
This was essentially always a euroskeptic country, had there been a referendum on Maastricht or Lisbon both would have been soundly rejected.
This one man emerges to defy the political elite is all very lovely and romantic but it’s largely overblown. Much as the influence of Powell on the British electorate was overblown.
Pushing the outer bounds of your bullshit, in case it's called bullshit. I do disagree, but it's also worthwhile to identify why you are wrong. Stupid people have far too much say these days and they feel entitled to avoid challenge, just as you are belittling the words raining on your fantasy.
Go on about the vote all you want - but there never would have been one without Farage and the other patriots standing up to the authoritarian cunts in Brussels. I know who Farage is, and you probably do too. But why you feel the need to make up shit that's so obviously ridiculous is the only mystery here.
You're just another one of those "reasonable" repeaters with a ring through your nose, being pulled along. Too scared to have a real opinion.
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Again no
It was the backbenches of the Tory party who wanted the referendum, not because of UKIP but because they themselves wanted to leave the EU, and they wanted Cameron to call for a referendum on the Lisbon treaty when he was leader of the opposition but he didn’t. The Conservatives had already positioned themselves that way by leaving the EPP bloc
I love how you decry legacy media yet you follow the narrative they put out about Farage being this Mr Brexit figure.
Too scared to have a real opinion? You’re literally too scared to think anything that doesn’t chime with your world view.The fact is, Brexit was authored by the establishment party.