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AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 12:00 PM
I wonder what the untested 19 year old neymar will be on at RM.

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 12:01 PM
Connor Wickham up for sale for £12m

Arsenal and Liverpool are favourites.

Arsenal have apparently offered to loan him back to Ipswich if we get him

KSE Comedy Club
14-06-2011, 12:05 PM
Connor Wickham up for sale for £12m

Arsenal and Liverpool are favourites.

Arsenal have apparently offered to loan him back to Ipswich if we get him

You see, this is what I am saying.

Do we really have £12m to spend on this guy to then send him back on loan?

We could be using that £12m to buy someone with experience.

budesonide
14-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Glad we are constantly making a profit and doing nothing with it :good:

matey, it's the way to win the moral superiority cup.

Come on, dude:banghead:

The Realist
14-06-2011, 12:53 PM
We're in talks to sign Gervinho eh?

Not entirely sure he's good enough, but meh.

I've got a feeling Gervinho could be Rosicky's replacement, based on what Gazidis said yesterday. Or he could be converted into a striker, and be Bendtner's replacement. Either way it should be good. Gervinho, Arshavin and Chamakh providing cover for Nasri, Walcott and RvP is title challenging quality.

Wenger doesn't really need to make too many changes to the first 11, we just need to burn off the deadwood.

We need strong cover for Song (a proper DM like Toulalan), and a new LB (Vertonghen?) and a new CB (Cahill/Samba?) maybe a striker..

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 01:03 PM
Most likely a second striker, but I'm still holding out for another, we didn't have enough top strikers last season and in general, our squad was just too small and lacked real quality beyond the first 11.

Injury Time
14-06-2011, 01:09 PM
Connor Wickham up for sale for £12m

Arsenal and Liverpool are favourites.

Arsenal have apparently offered to loan him back to Ipswich if we get him

He totally disappeared in the Town matches I went to....so he'd fit straight in...er if he wasn't on loan :wacko:

Özim
14-06-2011, 01:40 PM
Don't know what to make of Gervinho, think he scored 15 goals last season, if we are to sign a forward I would have liked someone prolific tbh.

Would make sense though, another player from the French Ligue who's relatively untested.

Dentonboy
14-06-2011, 01:42 PM
Defenders please Arsenal! Cahill, Samba and Baines will do. Cheers.

LDG
14-06-2011, 01:45 PM
Don't know what to make of Gervinho, think he scored 15 goals last season, if we are to sign a forward I would have liked someone prolific tbh.

Would make sense though, another player from the French Ligue who's relatively untested.

From what I've watched. He looks direct, and is built like a fucking beast. Quick, and skillfull. looks similar to Drogba, and doesn't mind having a pop.

Sounds exactly what we need.

Well, at least until Wenger tells him to look for a pass first.

selassie
14-06-2011, 01:55 PM
I've got a feeling Gervinho could be Rosicky's replacement, based on what Gazidis said yesterday. Or he could be converted into a striker, and be Bendtner's replacement. Either way it should be good. Gervinho, Arshavin and Chamakh providing cover for Nasri, Walcott and RvP is title challenging quality.

Wenger doesn't really need to make too many changes to the first 11, we just need to burn off the deadwood.

We need strong cover for Song (a proper DM like Toulalan), and a new LB (Vertonghen?) and a new CB (Cahill/Samba?) maybe a striker..

I think Gervinho will be Bendy's replacement. I've not really seen very much of him, but from what I have seen of him, the World Cup, he a looked a decent talent.

I hope Arsene is focused on Defence, this is the area where he needs to make the signings that make a difference IMHO.

The Realist
14-06-2011, 02:06 PM
Connor Wickham up for sale for £12m

Arsenal and Liverpool are favourites.

Arsenal have apparently offered to loan him back to Ipswich if we get him

I can almost 100% guarantee we aren't going for Wickham.

Flavs
14-06-2011, 02:30 PM
Apparenty we have been given permission to speak to Gervinho by Lille now as they expect him to leave anyway

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 02:36 PM
What is Gervinho like Flavs?

Coney
14-06-2011, 02:43 PM
What, is Gervinho like Flavs?

No, I don't think so.

selassie
14-06-2011, 03:27 PM
No, I don't think so.

:lol:

Injury Time
14-06-2011, 03:32 PM
What, is Gervinho like Flavs?


No, I don't think so.

This ish yours' isntit...

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/demotivational-posters-punctuation.jpg

Coney
14-06-2011, 03:39 PM
This ish yours' isntit...

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/demotivational-posters-punctuation.jpg

Im' not: sure, that is: right.

fari
14-06-2011, 03:41 PM
What is Gervinho like Flavs?

i am no expert but from the few times i have seen lille this season he displayed good close control, takes his man on, can hold the ball up, brings others into play...and all this without being a particularly strong looking man (like drogba for example). not sure how he will fit into the arsenal system but at lille he and hazard had defenders trembling.

Master Splinter
14-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Poor Lille are getting absolutely gutted this summer.

:rose:

Only thing stopping Gervinho being The Next Drogba is his height.

Japan Shaking All Over
14-06-2011, 04:19 PM
focus also needs to be paid to the defence but would be something if we went and got Hazard too

I too think that if we sell Bedtner then we need another forward

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 04:25 PM
Would like to offer Clichy +20mill for Higuian if Clichy really wants to go. Moooooreeenio always had a soft spot for our left backs.

LDG
14-06-2011, 04:28 PM
I want Cahill, Hazard, Gervinho & a beast in the middle.

Hmph.

Toronto Gooner
14-06-2011, 04:32 PM
I want Cahill, Hazard, Gervinho & a beast in the middle.

Hmph.
I do not know, I hear that A. Beast is great in Ligue 3 but might have difficulty in adapting to the EPL.:)

Darth Vela
14-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Would like to offer Clichy +20mill for Higuian if Clichy really wants to go. Moooooreeenio always had a soft spot for our left backs.

Get rid of Clichy and get a top class striker? Sounds like a deal too good to happen.

Boss
14-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Don't think Higuain would be any good in the EPL.

Would take Benzema if we're gonna go for any of their strikers.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 04:55 PM
If they wanted rid of Benzema, I'd take him instead, something tells me that won't be the case however...

Darth Vela
14-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Interesting, what makes you think Benzema would be any better at adapting? Neither are particularly strong but both have the skills to survive as part of our team as far as I can see, only difference I'd say was that Higuain had the edge in consistency.

Boss
14-06-2011, 05:03 PM
I think Benzema is faster and has more ability (something we need, an Henry of sorts... not as good obviously but that style of player) whereas Higuain is better on the end of moves and can't do as much for himself (a Chamakh of sorts... again obviously not as dire).

Mourinho seems to hate Benzema for some reason so I think he'd let him go for a reasonable amount, of course as we wouldn't pay anything over 5M no chance of us getting either.

Sicc
14-06-2011, 06:41 PM
With all of Benzema's personal problems, I don't think Wenger would be interested (allegations of sleeping with an under-age prostitute/sending porn to a minor)

Gervinho has a good work rate, and I think would adapt quite quickly in our squad (either up front or on the wing) We need to get a solid defender (Samba/Cahill) A LB and a DM. With those additions, if we sell Denilson/Rosicky/Bendtner/Vela, Wenger should either buy an additional attacking mid/forward or promote from youth. We could win the league for a change then.

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 07:58 PM
I don't see anything really special about Gervinho. Good technique and close control, dribbling is okay but not mind blowing and it looks like he's the type to score all his goals inside the box. I can't see him carving out an opportunity for himself at or trying exploiting small openings to take power shots. When teams sit back he may struggle.

We have to sign him first anyway. If we do, we'll get a better idea of what he can during the Emirates Cup. I'd prefer Benzema though. If he gets his mind right, he has the potential to be deadly.

Master Splinter
14-06-2011, 08:05 PM
Benzema would cost too much.

Plus, even at his age, he's an absolutely legendary GHEL. Rooney and Cashley look like amatuers in comparison.

Too much of a risk.

GP
14-06-2011, 08:14 PM
Have we signed 18 players yet?

Master Splinter
14-06-2011, 08:16 PM
Have we signed 18 players yet?

Yes, including your face and your mum.

budesonide
14-06-2011, 08:28 PM
Have we signed 18 players yet?

i thought we were going for the full 22, or is it 25?:unsure:

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 08:28 PM
Benzema would cost too much.

Plus, even at his age, he's an absolutely legendary GHEL. Rooney and Cashley look like amatuers in comparison.

Too much of a risk.

If we get Bendy and Denilson off the books, we should be able to afford him. If we lose Cesc and Nasri then we can definitely afford him.

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 08:39 PM
Sagna giving a radio interview confirms Cesc wants to leave.

Time to let our cunt of a captain leave

budesonide
14-06-2011, 08:47 PM
Sagna giving a radio interview confirms Cesc wants to leave.

Time to let our cunt of a captain leave

oh dear!

wenger's youth policy mascot abandoning ship?

boy, who saw that coming, eh?

GP
14-06-2011, 08:51 PM
oh dear!

wenger's youth policy mascot abandoning ship?

boy, who saw that coming, eh?

Your mum and your face?

budesonide
14-06-2011, 08:52 PM
Your mum and your face?

:getcoat:

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 08:58 PM
Hmm, doesn't sound very good if one of his teammates is indicating he wants to leave.

It's time to cash in, this can't drag on for much longer.

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 09:00 PM
Spanish midfielder Cesc Fabregas (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/38886/Cesc-F%C3%A1bregas) wants to join Barcelona this summer, according to Arsenal team-mate Bacary Sagna (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/38880/Bacary-Sagna).
Fabregas came through the Barca youth ranks before joining Arsenal as 16-year-old in 2003 and he has been linked with a return to his former side for the last three seasons.
The Arsenal captain, 24, was very close to leaving Emirates Stadium last summer and this year Sagna believes the Catalan's desire to return home is greater than ever.
"I can say it's true that Cesc wants to go to Barca," Sagna told France's RMC Radio. "Compared to last year, it's more likely Cesc will leave.
"He wants to return to his country, his hometown, his family. He wants to play for one of the best teams in the world, Barcelona, and that's understandable."
"At the moment, however, he is still Arsenal's captain."
While Sagna believes Fabregas may leave Arsenal, the French defender is hopeful compatriot Samir Nasri (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/43531/Samir-Nasri) will stay at Arsenal. The Les Bleus star has been heavily linked with a move to Premier League rivals Manchester United.
"Samir is happy at Arsenal, but I don't know what the best thing is for his career," Sagna said. "He has been one of the best players in the team this season and he is one of the symbols of this team. I hope to find him there when we return for (pre-season) training."


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/928249/fabregas-wants-barcelona-move,-claims-sagna?cc=5739

Kano
14-06-2011, 09:03 PM
wow thanks for the headline bacary

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Time to cash in. Let him go. It's been 8 years. RVP is next to go.

Kano
14-06-2011, 09:15 PM
only if the money is right if not then he can get ready for our next season

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 09:20 PM
only if the money is right if not then he can get ready for our next season

I don't think Wenger will do that to him again. Barca will offer somewhere between 30-40m and we will accept it IMHO.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 09:21 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2011-06-14/auclair-arsenal-looks-certain-be-gervinhos-destination

We've agreed personal terms with gervinho, I'm almost excited. A pacey direct winger who's not afraid to shoot.

Özim
14-06-2011, 09:22 PM
I don't think Wenger will do that to him again. Barca will offer somewhere between 30-40m and we will accept it IMHO.
He probably played his one more year card last year.

Kano
14-06-2011, 09:22 PM
I don't think Wenger will do that to him again. Barca will offer somewhere between 30-40m and we will accept it IMHO.

not so sure hes been quite forthcoming in the interest (not) being shown and wanting to keep him to his contract. i dont think he wants or can afford to be bossed by barca (off the pitch as well)

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 09:26 PM
He probably played his one more year card last year.

Yeah and it's clear that Barca don't have much in excess of what we would value him at (50m at least). I think making him stay again would spell disaster on the pitch, his performances last season weren't anything to write home about so can you imagine what he'd churn out again?

I think it's time to end this saga once and for all. Get it done early so we can rebuild.

Özim
14-06-2011, 09:29 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2011-06-14/auclair-arsenal-looks-certain-be-gervinhos-destination

We've agreed personal terms with gervinho, I'm almost excited. A pact direct winger who's not afraid to shoot.
Also says PSG with their Quatari investors are trying to entice AW as manager. Apparently he's had talks last week and may well return next year.

PSG have become the French Man City.

GP
14-06-2011, 09:30 PM
Sell Cesc, buy Marlon Harewood.

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 09:34 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2011-06-14/auclair-arsenal-looks-certain-be-gervinhos-destination

We've agreed personal terms with gervinho, I'm almost excited. A pact direct winger who's not afraid to shoot.

Yes and it didn't take a sugar daddy to make it happen.

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 09:39 PM
His pace won't be utilised here and his shooting instinct will be changed to a 6 yard pass instinct.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 09:42 PM
Yes and it didn't take a sugar daddy to make it happen.
Oh wow, are we going to get that petty? I'm sure he's exactly the type of signing you'll be slating when he's not scored 50 goals this season as a typical cheapo wenger signing so to say that now is extra lame... Page me when we sign the 30mill player wenger is pyhscologically unable to sign. :popcorn:

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Oh wow, are we going to get that petty? I'm sure he's exactly the type of signing you'll be slating when he's not scored 50 goals this season as a typical cheapo wenger signing so to say that now is extra lame... Page me when we sign the 30mill player wenger is pyhscologically unable to sign. :popcorn:

You're touchy! Just stating a simple fact. If this story is true, we didn't need a sugar daddy to make it happen. You should be happy!

Kano
14-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Yeah and it's clear that Barca don't have much in excess of what we would value him at (50m at least). I think making him stay again would spell disaster on the pitch, his performances last season weren't anything to write home about so can you imagine what he'd churn out again?

I think it's time to end this saga once and for all. Get it done early so we can rebuild.

given the amount of injuries cesc had last season it is easy far too easy to say he wasnt up for playing to his best. there is nothing in his character to say he is player that wouldn't give his all.

if fans complain that we would let nasri go on the cheap, then a player with 5 years on their contract, at his age being one of the best in the world in his position should not be allowed to leave undervalued.

if barca want to find the money they can from somewhere but they are hedging their bets in the hope we cave in. do it again and they'll forever think they can. wenger has the right approach on this one.

Sirjackofwilshere
14-06-2011, 09:50 PM
DarrenArsenal1 (http://twitter.com/#%21/DarrenArsenal1) Darren



So 2 CBs,forward and a winger all on the verge,but some wont be confirmed until players go out #arsenal (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23arsenal) fingers in pies about to be removed



:jumpnana:

budesonide
14-06-2011, 09:50 PM
His pace won't be utilised here and his shooting instinct will be changed to a 6 yard pass instinct.

no; he will adapt perfectly and score 25 goals plus 15 assists then demand that he is paid a top strikers wages -- at which point man city/chelsea/barca/ real madrid will come knocking and we'll collect the cool 25mil and pocket it. :)

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 09:54 PM
You're touchy! Just stating a simple fact. If this story is true, we didn't need a sugar daddy to make it happen. You should be happy!
We didn't need a sugar daddy to sign squilachi or chamakh.

When we sign several 30mill players then maybe we can both change our minds, but until then stop being so pathetic.

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 09:55 PM
given the amount of injuries cesc had last season it is easy far too easy to say he wasnt up for playing to his best. there is nothing in his character to say he is player that wouldn't give his all.

if fans complain that we would let nasri go on the cheap, then a player with 5 years on their contract, at his age being one of the best in the world in his position should not be allowed to leave undervalued.

if barca want to find the money they can from somewhere but they are hedging their bets in the hope we cave in. do it again and they'll forever think they can. wenger has the right approach on this one.

I hope we push Barca to their absolute limit as well but I just have a feeling we will end this once and for all and potentially not in the way we would have liked.

budesonide
14-06-2011, 09:57 PM
We didn't need a sugar daddy to sign squilachi or chamakh.

When we sign several 30mill players then maybe we can both changeover minds, but until then stop being so pathetic.

"several 30mil players"?

No wonder you want a sugar-daddy. :popcorn:

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 10:03 PM
"several 30mil players"?

No wonder you want a sugar-daddy. :popcorn:

Isn't that the going rate for a decent spine these days? Personally were about 3-4 15-30mill tier players from having decent squad when you consider Market rates and probable departure.

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 10:06 PM
"several 30mil players"?

No wonder you want a sugar-daddy. :popcorn:

Exactly. Nobody is saying we need a squad of players that cost £30m compete for the title. If we did, then what the heck is AKB celebrating about? This guy isn't going to win us the title according to his standards!

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 10:07 PM
So Cesc, booed or cheered when he comes back with Barcunts or more likely Bolton or someone when he flops in Spain and comes back to England for a shite ass club ala Hleb?

I say booed. He's been a twat for 18 months or so with his pining

Marc Overmars
14-06-2011, 10:09 PM
So Cesc, booed or cheered when he comes back with Barcunts or more likely Bolton or someone when he flops in Spain and comes back to England for a shite ass club ala Hleb?

I say booed. He's been a twat for 18 months or so with his pining

Not sure why he should be booed. Yeah not doing anything to quell the speculation is frustrating but I don't feel like he's disrespected the club. He's just had enough here and fancies a change which is fair enough, it happens. From his personal and footballing point of view you can't argue against the move really, that's the club he loves, all of his mates play there and win everything, the writing has been on the wall for a long time.

LDG
14-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Do you know what pisses me off most?

Not that cesc is going, or that we may lose him for a cut price sum.....it's that one of our lads is gabbering away to the media yet again.

We have a tradition at the club of being quiet in our business, and not airing our dealings in public.

Sagna has just knocked a few mill off the price with those comments.

Will someone at the club PLEASE stop making us a laughing stock and get a fucking grip!!

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 10:14 PM
8 years of service. Came here and left his home country and Barca to play for us. That's not easy and he deserves a little more than that. He's stayed long enough and we haven't made use of him to win more titles. Time for him to move on.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Exactly. Nobody is saying we need a squad of players that cost £30m compete for the title. If we did, then what the heck is AKB celebrating about? This guy isn't going to win us the title according to his standards!


We dont need players. We have enough of those. We need quality players and that we have hardly any of and that unfortunately costs money.

Keep buying midtable players for cheap and we eventually become a mid table side.

:popcorn:

I want a add 3-4 quality players to the side we've currently got. You could try and get them cheaper, based on there contract or club situation, but when you consider going rate for players like Young, Bent and Carroll, it normally wouldn't be asking for much for a supposedly *big club*.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 10:17 PM
We're spending a whole £30mill this summer on transfers... Oooooh, wenger must really be pissed. :haha:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-transfer-news-Gervinho-Chris-Samba-Gary-Cahill-targets-in-30m-spree-designed-to-stop-fan-backlash-article746959.html

Xhaka Can’t
14-06-2011, 10:26 PM
In a sport full of hateful retarded dickheads, our players manage to stand out as being the stupidest dickhead twats of all.

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 10:27 PM
:popcorn:

I want a add 3-4 quality players to add to the side we've currently got. You could try and get them cheaper, based on there contract or club situation, but when you consider going rate for players like Young, Bent and Carroll, it normally wouldn't be asking for much for a supposedly *big club*.

And every quality player cost £30m right? Vidic? Hernandez! Van der Vart? Sagna? Vermaelen? We just signed this kid who hasn't cost us £30m. Is he quality? You seem happy enough.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 10:36 PM
And every quality player cost £30m right? Vidic? Hernandez! Van der Vart? Sagna? Vermaelen? We just signed this kid who hasn't cost us £30m. Is he quality? You seem happy enough.

If we could get those types of players for less then so be it, but for every Hernandez, there's a Rooney, berbatov, for every vidic or kompany, there's a ferdinhand or a toure.

At Arsensal however...

Kano
14-06-2011, 10:42 PM
In a sport full of hateful retarded dickheads, our players manage to stand out as being the stupidest dickhead twats of all.

doubt it.

id rather them than players that fuck their brothers or team mates wifes, sleeping with prossies and whose mum and dad are theifs

Kano
14-06-2011, 10:43 PM
Do you know what pisses me off most?

Not that cesc is going, or that we may lose him for a cut price sum.....it's that one of our lads is gabbering away to the media yet again.

We have a tradition at the club of being quiet in our business, and not airing our dealings in public.

Sagna has just knocked a few mill off the price with those comments.

Will someone at the club PLEASE stop making us a laughing stock and get a fucking grip!!

oh come on, its the worst kept 'secret' in football

cesc even said it himself last season

and we are far from a laughing stock

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 10:50 PM
and we are far from a laughing stock

Did you watch us last season? It was a season full of embarrassment and humiliation and we became a laughing stock

Kano
14-06-2011, 10:53 PM
sure

Master Splinter
14-06-2011, 10:56 PM
Sell Cesc, buy Marlon Harewood.
:gp:

This post has been overlooked.

Harewood would be the new Gunnersaurus of course.

Still a more useful leader than Cesc 'assist the opposition' Fabregas however.

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 11:10 PM
Embarrassed and humiliated in every competition as well

League - Spurs games, the predictability of the Chelsea defeat at their ground, Newcastle and WBA home games, losing to a shite ass Bolton side who had just lost 5-0 the week before and were in awful form, the decline at the end, being the only side in the history of football that can take the lead in the 98th min of a match and still panic and not win and of course the worst of the lot the 4-4 at Newcastle. That alone is laughing stock calibre.

Carling Cup - Not winning when the semis consisted of 2 teams relegated and a shite Ipswich side and of course the bottle job in the final.

FA Cup - Struggling to beat Leeds, Huddersfield and then L Orient then losing to Man utd which looking at it isn't bad but when the man utd side has 8 defensive players and the other 3 being Gibson who is awful, a young Mexican and an out of form Rooney, yeah its bad

CL - Not winning arguably the easiest group in history. No shots at all at the Cunts ground totally making a mockery out of our attacking play ethos

I'm sure there's more but all in all yup I'd say laughing stock

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 11:12 PM
I'm with Ach on humiliating season.

However Cesc is going no where
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fabregas-priced-out-of-move-home-2297415.html

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 11:14 PM
If we could get those types of players for less then so be it, but for every Hernandez, there's a Rooney, berbatov, for every vidic or kompany, there's a ferdinhand or a toure.

At Arsensal however...

Welcome! You've just arrived at the point a lot of us have been trying to make for the past few days.

KSE Comedy Club
14-06-2011, 11:16 PM
I'm with Ach on humiliating season.

However Cesc is going no where
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fabregas-priced-out-of-move-home-2297415.html

As it should be.

If they arent willing to pay the fee, then they can fuck off.

Cesc can sulk on the subs bench if he doesnt like it :good:

Kano
14-06-2011, 11:19 PM
I'm sure there's more but all in all yup I'd say laughing stock

you lot on here sure love a drama, im learning every day

in an office full of arsenal, spurs and man u fans we're certainly no laughing stock

guess it adds to the frenzy of despair that exists on here

Olivier's xmas twist
14-06-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm with Ach on humiliating season.

However Cesc is going no where
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fabregas-priced-out-of-move-home-2297415.html

Meh of course he is going, this is just part of the media circus. His team mate has more or less said he wants to go. Do you really belive AW will keep him around knowing his team mates know he dont want to be there.

Will seill him for 30 plus Allfely or bojan or both

Power n Glory
14-06-2011, 11:27 PM
you lot on here sure love a drama, im learning every day

in an office full of arsenal, spurs and man u fans we're certainly no laughing stock

guess it adds to the frenzy of despair that exists on here

In my office, rival fans simply ran out of words and just ended up walking past and shaking their heads. The 'what happened to your team over the weekend' became a cliche every Monday. They got bored.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 11:28 PM
Welcome! You've just arrived at the point a lot of us have been trying to make for the past few days.
No. You believe that the money to make those signings exist. I don't.

It's amazing how littles filtered through after all those pages /o\

KSE Comedy Club
14-06-2011, 11:30 PM
So 2 CBs,forward and a winger all on the verge,but some wont be confirmed until players go out #arsenal (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23arsenal) fingers in pies about to be removed

:jumpnana:

So, Im guessing:

Samba
Cahill
Gervinho

Not sure about the forward, and what the hell does that last bit mean? !!

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 11:32 PM
Meh of course he is going, this is just part of the media circus. His team mate has more or less said he wants to go. Do you really belive AW will keep him around knowing his team mates know he dont want to be there.

Will seill him for 30 plus Allfely or bojan or both
AW has no choice, neither has Cesc really. Sell him for less than he's worth and we're fucked, and if cesc doesn't perform then he can kiss his dreams of leaving for a top club on a decent wage good bye.

AKBapologist
14-06-2011, 11:32 PM
So, Im guessing:

Samba
Cahill
Gervinho

Not sure about the forward, and what the hell does that last bit mean? !!
We need to sell to buy.

Cripps_orig
14-06-2011, 11:43 PM
Arsenal have made an approach for Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Willian, with a deal for the 23-year-old including a payment of £12m and Gunners midfielder Denilson in part-exchange.
Full story: talkSPORT


Has to be better than Denilson.

Also on the gossip pages, I saw that Barcunts will be looking to cash in on David Villa so they can fund a move for our cunt captain.

Anyone else thinking swap?

V-Pig
14-06-2011, 11:45 PM
Won't Denilson argue that he's a world class player and in need of a bigger club than Shitcar?

KSE Comedy Club
14-06-2011, 11:52 PM
Has to be better than Denilson.

Also on the gossip pages, I saw that Barcunts will be looking to cash in on David Villa so they can fund a move for our cunt captain.

Anyone else thinking swap?

So, we would have to pay them £12m and give them denilson? I cant see that happening tbh.

Deffo should ask for a swap , and a few £mil in exchange for Cesc.

Toronto Gooner
15-06-2011, 12:15 AM
Has to be better than Denilson.

Also on the gossip pages, I saw that Barcunts will be looking to cash in on David Villa so they can fund a move for our cunt captain.

Anyone else thinking swap?
I would take Villa plus Thiago for Fabregas.

AKBapologist
15-06-2011, 12:20 AM
Who would replace fabregas?

Cesc Fabregas since 2004 – goals 52 , assists 88, total apps 310
Xavi Hernandez since 2004 – goals 49, assists 65, total apps 347

Power n Glory
15-06-2011, 06:03 AM
No. You believe that the money to make those signings exist. I don't.

It's amazing how littles filtered through after all those pages /o\

Good grief! Where have I ever said we have Chelsea money to spend? My argument is that you don't need Chelsea money to sign quality players. It really is amazing.

server too busy!
15-06-2011, 08:19 AM
So, Im guessing:

Samba
Cahill
Gervinho

Not sure about the forward, and what the hell does that last bit mean? !!
Nah I think:
Milosevic
Samba
Oxlade
Gervinho (Gervinho being thought of as the striker)

LDG
15-06-2011, 08:24 AM
No. You believe that the money to make those signings exist. I don't.

It's amazing how littles filtered through after all those pages /o\



Good grief! Where have I ever said we have Chelsea money to spend? My argument is that you don't need Chelsea money to sign quality players. It really is amazing.

:haha:

V-Pig
15-06-2011, 08:27 AM
Remember a couple of seasons ago where it looked as though Villa would get 4th and Van Persie would leave to find CL football?

It's not really at all relevant, but I was just thinking how shit-scary that time was.

Japan Shaking All Over
15-06-2011, 09:05 AM
Time to cash in. Let him go. It's been 8 years. RVP is next to go.



Time to cash in

agreed......it is time......more than Cesc, would hate to see RvP go (have a funny feeling that Robin may be around for a few more years)

if Cesc goes then the Nasri situation could be resolved more easily (could there have been a bit of that in Sagna's statement as he does mention Nasri too!) - we could give Nasri Cesc's salary or close to it and tie him down to a min 5 year contract.

Nasri could move to Cesc's AM position which I think he is best suited too and we could use the money to buy a decent winger

Sczensey

Sagna ------Verm -------Cahill/Samba------Baines

Song--------Wilshere

Walcott-----------Nasri------------Hazard

RvP



would this be a bad lien up? - bit light in the middle perhaps - bit short? (this is the first time I have tried to picture a team, moreover keep with the kind of formation we were using last season so please feel free to tear it to shreads:cool:)

Not sure if Hazard is likely or not but Gervinho and Baines is still a floating name (but would give us another very decent FK threat!)

LDG
15-06-2011, 09:22 AM
My preferred line up would be back to 4-4-2.

jhdkfh.fl/ankmd

Sagna Cahill/Samba Vermaelen Gibbs

Walcott Song Wilshire Winger (Hazard?)

RVP
Gervinho/Striker

It's why I'm not that fussed about Cesc leaving, or Nasri for that matter. Get back to playing with width, pace and power.

Alan B'stard
15-06-2011, 09:39 AM
Sagna Cahill Samba Vermaelen
Walcott Song Wilshere Hazard
RVP
Gervinho

hmm

Coney
15-06-2011, 09:41 AM
Who would replace fabregas?

Cesc Fabregas since 2004 – goals 52 , assists 88, total apps 310
Xavi Hernandez since 2004 – goals 49, assists 65, total apps 347

Comparing Apples and Oranges. How many would Cesc have scored in Spain, how many would Hernandez have scored in the PL. It is not that simple a comparison.

LDG
15-06-2011, 09:44 AM
Sagna Cahill Samba Vermaelen
Walcott Song Wilshere Hazard
RVP
Gervinho

hmm

I likes that.

LDG
15-06-2011, 09:45 AM
Comparing Apples and Oranges. How many would Cesc have scored in Spain, how many would Hernandez have scored in the PL. It is not that simple a comparison.

Cesc Fabregas from 2011- goals 0, assists 4, appearances 7 (12)

:pal:

Coney
15-06-2011, 09:45 AM
My preferred line up would be back to 4-4-2.

jhdkfh.fl/ankmd

Sagna Cahill/Samba Vermaelen Gibbs

Walcott Song Wilshire Winger (Hazard?)

RVP
Gervinho/Striker

It's why I'm not that fussed about Cesc leaving, or Nasri for that matter. Get back to playing with width, pace and power.

Looks decent. I presume by "jhdkfh.fl/ankmd" you mean Sceznikotkoadsov? I think we should play him always unless he is injured because I see him as our No1 keeper for the next decade and more. With a proper back 4, he will be a top star. Just need the back 4 sorting..... :(

Kano
15-06-2011, 10:25 AM
Cesc Fabregas from 2011- goals 0, assists 4, appearances 7 (12)

:pal:

bar rvp thats probably the best stats of any player from the turn of the year

and hazard isnt coming here, the president of lille michel seydoux said he is 'untransferable'

Seaman's Ponytail
15-06-2011, 10:34 AM
So, we would have to pay them £12m and give them denilson?

Which would make the total deal worth about 9 mill.....

LDG
15-06-2011, 10:39 AM
Which would make the total deal worth about 9 mill.....

Yeah. We're paying them the extra 3 Million to take Denilson :good:

Cracking username btw! :haha:

Fist of Lehmann
15-06-2011, 10:44 AM
Milosevic looking unlikely according to Young Guns.

NNNNOOOOOOOOooooooo!

Savo Milosevic still available though.

Joker
15-06-2011, 10:57 AM
If we are in for Willian then that's quite a good deal IMO. I've seen him a few times in the UCL and he looked a skilful winger who was direct, pacy and a threat.

However, some of the other players we are linked aren't exactly the type I was looking for. The Mirror linked us with a few players:


Arsene Wenger is looking to make a £30million statement of transfer intent to head off a growing Arsenal fan backlash.

Gunners chief Wenger is close to landing £12m Ivory Coast striker Gervinho from French champions Lille.

The Arsenal boss is also keen to push through a deal for a centre-back - either Blackburn captain Christopher Samba or Bolton's Gary Cahill.

And as Emirates chief executive Ivan Gazidis implicitly accused Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy of making unacceptable wage demands, it emerged that Wenger is tracking striker Leandro Damiao of Brazilian side Internacional and AIK Stockholm's Sweden Under-21 full-back Alexander Milosevic.

Gervinho, who has also been on the wish-list of Spurs and Newcastle, looks set to be the first major arrival of the summer.

Lille general manager Frederic Paquet revealed: "He actually wants to go and expressed his desire to leave for England.

"We have developed contacts with Arsenal. We will soon discuss with them to see what they want and see what they offer - but he is a player of value."

The move comes after Gazidis and Wenger came under sustained inquisition at a meeting of Arsenal supporters.

The chief executive had to reiterate his "100 per cent support" for Wenger, who has transformed the club since his arrival in September 1996.

As some fans' groups spoke of a potential "mutiny" if Wenger did not splash the cash this summer and reap tangible reward, Gazidis was pressed on the fact that Nasri and Clichy appear to be on their way out for nominal fees - way below their true market values - this summer to avoid them walking out for nothing in 12 months time.

After insisting he did not want to "discuss individual players", Gazidis added: "Every single club makes mistakes and certainly we do as we go through the journey. But almost everybody who analyses this area looks at Arsenal as a role model for efficiency of spending.

"We try to avoid the situation where valuable players are allowed to run down their contracts but we also try to avoid the situation where spending runs to unsustainable levels.

"Sometimes those two things are inconsistent and you need to make a judgement call and draw a line. We do that as well as we can and better than most."

That means refreshing the squad, with Samba appearing the more likely defensive arrival, especially with Manchester City and their bottomless cash reserves also on Cahill's trail.

Damaio, 21, who is also a Tottenham target, ironically made his Brazil debut at the Emirates against Scotland earlier this year. He boost Wenger's fire-power and potentially open the way for Andriy Arshavin's mooted return to Russian football.

Spurs had made the running for the £10m-rated striker but Arsenal can offer him Champions League football rather than the Europa League.

Liverpool are also interested in Milosevic, who is still in his teens.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-transfer-news-Gervinho-Chris-Samba-Gary-Cahill-targets-in-30m-spree-designed-to-stop-fan-backlash-article746959.html

We still seem to be in the business of signing young, unknown players like Milosevic and Damaio. Surely it would be better to get more established player who've played a few seasons already in the top division of their domestic league, meaning they can come in instantly without needing to bed in? Sagna and Vermaelen are two examples of the sort of players who came in and immediately made an impact.

While it would also be good if we were after players whom we've actually heard of, this isn't necessarily a prerequisite, because I doubt many heard of Sagna before he was bought.

Fist of Lehmann
15-06-2011, 11:08 AM
While it would also be good if we were after players whom we've actually heard of, this isn't necessarily a prerequisite, because I doubt many heard of Sagna before he was bought.

Given the sheltered existence of many English fans I'd say this was necessarily a non-prerequisite.

Tbh "Lille" sounds more like a female hygeine product to me.

LDG
15-06-2011, 11:14 AM
Given the sheltered existence of many English fans I'd say this was necessarily a non-prerequisite.

Tbh "Lille" sounds more like a female hygeine product to me.

Lol

Kano
15-06-2011, 11:20 AM
Cesc Fábregas has admitted he feels frustrated at Arsenal, but insists he will not press for a summer transfer to Barcelona.

On Tuesday his Arsenal team-mate Bacary Sagna claimed Fábregas had decided to seek a return to the Catalan club where he came through the youth system before moving to London in 2003. However Fábregas has insisted that he will not agitate for a transfer.

Fábregas said: "Barcelona are the best team in the world and going there guarantees titles. But I owe myself to Arsenal.

"Any player who says he is not frustrated at not winning titles is lying. I am ambitious. [But] I have not spoken to the manager. He is the boss, he takes decisions and I don't know if they want to sell me or not.

"I have values and after all that I have done in eight years here I am not going to say a word that would ruin everything. I have always acted with discretion.

"Everyone sees things in a different way but in these [sorts of] decisions, not everything depends on the player. If I said anything else it would be a lie, it would give rise to speculation that is not true.

"I am very happy at Arsenal. I am not going to talk about any team – but I can't say no to anyone because you never know what could happen in the future."

Barça have tried and failed to sign their former player in each of the last two summer transfer windows.

heres to next season lad

Marc Overmars
15-06-2011, 11:24 AM
He's wrapped around Wenger's finger.

Wenger. :bow:

Fist of Lehmann
15-06-2011, 11:27 AM
I wonder how many players would leave when, I mean if, Wenger left.

Kano
15-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Samir Nasri's agent claims the Arsenal midfielder is set to hold further contract talks with Arsene Wenger in a bid to resolve his future.

The Frenchman, who is out of contract with the Gunners next July, has been heavily linked with a move away from Emirates Stadium this summer.

Arsenal boss Wenger has made it clear he wants to keep Nasri in North London and has no intention of selling him to fierce rivals Manchester United, who are thought to be chasing his signature.

Reports suggest the France international has shunned contract talks with the Gunners until he is satisfied their transfer targets are of the required standard to mount a title bid next term.

However, Nasri's representative Alain Migliaccio claims negotiations are ongoing and expects the player to meet with Wenger in the near future.

He told calciomercatoweb: "I want to clarify that there has been no break with the Gunners over the contract's renewal and we should meet again soon with Arsene Wenger."

Migliaccio also moved to play down speculation linking Nasri with a move away from the Emirates, with Inter Milan the latest club thought to be interested.

He added: "There are a few clubs interested in Samir, but it is useless to name them.

"Before listening to other teams, we need and we want to talk with Arsenal."
if its true man u are heading for sanchez, they are not spending on this guy as well

KSE Comedy Club
15-06-2011, 11:27 AM
heres to next season lad

I have to say fair play to the guy.

Kano
15-06-2011, 11:34 AM
I have to say fair play to the guy.

its hard to knock him, in the past he's always rushed to respond to speculation and has been honest enough this and last year to confirm what we always thought that he wants to go home.

no problem with that, as he gives his all when wearing our shirt. his injuries have made it look otherwise but he still got the most assists in the pl for us last year

AKBapologist
15-06-2011, 11:47 AM
I wonder how many players would leave when, I mean if, Wenger left.

Depends on who we brought in. If it's any of the managers some mugs have suggested, I doubt anyone decent would hang around.

LDG
15-06-2011, 11:53 AM
Depends on who we brought in. If it's any of the managers some mugs have suggested, I doubt anyone decent would hang around.

Also depends on the players contract.

They'd be hard pushed to walk out the door in tandem.

Some people really don't think things through.

Joker
15-06-2011, 11:57 AM
I just wish we sort out the Cesc and Nasri saga soon. If they're staying, then hopefully we get an official message confirming it, and we can get on with the pre-season when it starts. If they're leaving, hopefully we can sell them quickly, giving us more time to get in replacements who'll hopefully get a full pre-season to bed in. I would hate it if this carries on throughout the summer, because it'll ultimately be detrimental to the club and the supporters, who are sick and tired of these tedious sagas, where agents, players, newspapers keep coming out with transfer tittle-tatle, treating the fans as mugs.

Özim
15-06-2011, 12:22 PM
Not that fussed about Gervinho to be honest, will see how he does if we sign him.

More interested in Willian who's a proper Brazilian player unlike Denilson, if Shaktar go for this deal they're fools, Denilson is rubbish.

Flavs
15-06-2011, 12:22 PM
They could make a drama film out of the Cesc saga, with a boy looking to return to his homeland from which he was stolen at gunpoint as a boy, but the evil empire Arsene of Arsenal wont let him return whence he came


I can see Justin Beiber as Cesc adn Enrique Iglasias as Pep

Özim
15-06-2011, 12:24 PM
They could make a drama film out of the Cesc saga, with a boy looking to return to his homeland from which he was stolen at gunpoint as a boy, but the evil empire Arsene of Arsenal wont let him return whence he came


I can see Justin Beiber as Cesc adn Enrique Iglasias as Pep
I think that would make a cr*p film to be honest.

Best leave that sort of thing to the likes of Scorcese, Lucas and Spielberg.

AKBapologist
15-06-2011, 12:29 PM
Also depends on the players contract.

They'd be hard pushed to walk out the door in tandem.

Some people really don't think things through.
What, because players never leave under contract?

AKBapologist
15-06-2011, 12:29 PM
Also depends on the players contract.

They'd be hard pushed to walk out the door in tandem.

Some people really don't think things through.
What, because players never leave under contract?

Fist of Lehmann
15-06-2011, 12:41 PM
I think that would make a cr*p film to be honest.

Best leave that sort of thing to the likes of Scorcese, Lucas and Spielberg.

The Phantom Menace. Nuff said.

LDG
15-06-2011, 12:58 PM
What, because players never leave under contract?

Of course they do.

But you're saying that we'd have an exodus, "doubt anyone decent would hang around".

Which is of course rubbish. We don't have to sell. Just like we didn't have to sell Fabregas last summer, and just like we don't have to sell Fabregas right now.

Fist of Lehmann
15-06-2011, 01:05 PM
Also depends on the players contract.

They'd be hard pushed to walk out the door in tandem.

Some people really don't think things through.

Why? What did I forget?

This is a speculation based on the premise that Fabregas might feel more obligation to Wenger than to the club. And, that others players might also feel that they were 'his' players rather than the Arsenal's.

This is quite apart from the fact that any new manager, more often than not, wants to bring in his own players.

Contracts are hardly non-negotiable, some players even move twice in one season. Bebe spent 5 weeks with Guimarães and didn't kick a ball before he went to Utd. And of course we all know about that dolphin-headed sausagegobbler.

Edit: Oh. Ignore that post LDG. You were disputing a possible exodus not that some might want to leave.

AKBapologist
15-06-2011, 01:17 PM
No one said exodus, but our best players would certainly be looking at leaving. A transfer request and a few choice words to the media and they'd be goners. At the very least you'd have very few extending contracts if we hired a nobody as coach.

Toronto Gooner
15-06-2011, 01:37 PM
I think that would make a cr*p film to be honest.

Best leave that sort of thing to the likes of Scorcese, Lucas and Spielberg.
I agree, Scorcese, Lucas and Spielberg are the best people to make crap films.:)

Japan Shaking All Over
15-06-2011, 01:41 PM
Not that fussed about Gervinho to be honest, will see how he does if we sign him.

More interested in Willian who's a proper Brazilian player unlike Denilson, if Shaktar go for this deal they're fools, Denilson is rubbish.

Eduardo?

Japan Shaking All Over
15-06-2011, 01:50 PM
I agree, Scorcese, Lucas and Spielberg are the best people to make crap films.:)

way things are going it will rival Star Wars for having ad many if not more episodes, each new one being worze than the one before and with equally as bad acting

"I DO want to stay honest sniff sniff

Master Splinter
15-06-2011, 01:57 PM
Eboue as Jar Jar Binks.

Arshavin as Jabba the Hutt.

Coney
15-06-2011, 02:01 PM
Not that fussed about Gervinho to be honest, will see how he does if we sign him.

More interested in Willian who's a proper Brazilian player unlike Denilson, if Shaktar go for this deal they're fools, Denilson is rubbish.

Shhhhhhhh. Shaktar might be reading this message board and we don't want to screw this up.

The Realist
15-06-2011, 04:33 PM
Sagna believes Gervinho is the right kind of player to take us forward. (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/sagna-salutes-prospective-signing)

Their haircuts are going to make them look like twins ffs. :haha:

I wonder, if Bendtner goes this summer, whether Walcott will be used more as an out-and-out striker.

Bergkampwonderland10
15-06-2011, 04:53 PM
Shhhhhhhh. Shaktar might be reading this message board and we don't want to screw this up.

I think Walcott is still too inconsistent in 1 on 1 situations ie. beating his man with the ball at his feet...until he masters that, I don't think Wenger will give him his chance as a CF.
I think it is interesting that Eden Hazard has been mentioned - he is def one signing I would actually be slightly excited about. I'd spend all the money we'd get from the sale of Bendtner, Clichy and Denilson on this guy and throw in Chamakh to Lille. Gervinho is less interesting to me - he'll be off to the AcON in Jan-Feb and I am just tired of that. 15 goals a season is no better than Bendtner either. Spurs can have him.

Bergkampwonderland10
15-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Meant to quote the Realist not Coney sorry.

Coney
15-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Sagna believes Gervinho is the right kind of player to take us forward. (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/sagna-salutes-prospective-signing)

Their haircuts are going to make them look like twins ffs. :haha:

I wonder, if Bendtner goes this summer, whether Walcott will be used more as an out-and-out striker.

I'd like that - he has the potential to do an Henry-esque role.

Coney
15-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Meant to quote the Realist not Coney sorry.

I forgive you. Just don't use my body posts like that again

Bergkampwonderland10
15-06-2011, 04:59 PM
I forgive you. Just don't use my body posts like that again

I'll try not to. Difference between Henry and Walcott = Henry consistently beat his man on the right wing even if it took him a while to start scoring goals...I really see Walcott as a CF but I think that is definitely the main thing he has to work on before he'll get his chance upfront.

V-Pig
15-06-2011, 05:05 PM
I love the idea that Wenger's only been playing Walcott exclusively on the wing to keep Bendtner happy when he only gets to play on the wing too.

The Realist
15-06-2011, 05:28 PM
Levante have made an offer to buy Pedro Botelho, who Wenger has told will not be in the first-team squad next season. They've also offered to loan Wellington for another season. (http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/06/levante-in-talks-over-wellington-botelho/)

It's a shame really, I'd heard a few good things about Pedro, but obviously he's not quite up to scratch.

In addition:

- Wenger has made a formal enquiry about French duo Raphael Varane and Emmanuel Riviere.

- New boy Hector Bellerin scored for Spain U-17s (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/new-arsenal-player-hector-bellerin-scores-tajikistan-%28125%29-10774560/) in a 6-0 thrashing of Tajikistan.

- Wenger will give Jenkinson and Bartley chances to prove themselves in pre-season, the latter mainly to decide whether or not he will be better off returning to Rangers next season.

Power n Glory
15-06-2011, 06:27 PM
I'll try not to. Difference between Henry and Walcott = Henry consistently beat his man on the right wing even if it took him a while to start scoring goals...I really see Walcott as a CF but I think that is definitely the main thing he has to work on before he'll get his chance upfront.

Didn't Wenger play Henry on the left while at Monaco? This is wiki, I don't know for sure, but Wenger likes to play right footers on the left. I think that makes it easier to score goals. When through on goal you can bend it around the keeper. Theo would find it easier playing on the left IMO.

Coney
15-06-2011, 06:30 PM
Didn't Wenger play Henry on the left while at Monaco? This is wiki, I don't know for sure, but Wenger likes to play right footers on the left. I think that makes it easier to score goals. When through on goal you can bend it around the keeper. Theo would find it easier playing on the left IMO.

Yes - Henry was a winger until he moved to the Arsenal and then Wenger made him into a CF.

Olivier's xmas twist
15-06-2011, 06:55 PM
So looked though this thread from the last time i was on and not a simple devlopment lol, ok Cesc wants to stay lol

fakeyank
15-06-2011, 07:21 PM
So looked though this thread from the last time i was on and not a simple devlopment lol, ok Cesc wants to stay lol

Cesc never said that he wants to stay.. he just said that he is happy to be at Arsenal. He also mentioned that anything can happen in the world of football.

Bottom line, he is waiting for Barca to come in with some real money and take him back home..

What will happen in the end? Barca will try to force us to sell for cheap.. we wont, he'll stay and sulk all of next season and fuck off the next.. FACT!

Cripps_orig
15-06-2011, 08:12 PM
Seb Larsson talking to Swedish newspapers has said Arsenal has shown some interest.

Wouldnt mind him.

Better set piece taker than any of our shite lot

Darth Vela
15-06-2011, 08:25 PM
I think Walcott is still too inconsistent in 1 on 1 situations ie. beating his man with the ball at his feet...until he masters that, I don't think Wenger will give him his chance as a CF.
I think it is interesting that Eden Hazard has been mentioned - he is def one signing I would actually be slightly excited about. I'd spend all the money we'd get from the sale of Bendtner, Clichy and Denilson on this guy and throw in Chamakh to Lille. Gervinho is less interesting to me - he'll be off to the AcON in Jan-Feb and I am just tired of that. 15 goals a season is no better than Bendtner either. Spurs can have him.

Tbh, Walcott's inability to beat his man when there isn't enough space to push it past him and run is almost an argument to move him upfront, running through onto passes and holding the ball up (something he actually does pretty well) could be more useful there than shunted out wide.

LDG
15-06-2011, 08:30 PM
Arseblog doing a FB thing on whether we should ship Vela out or keep hold.

Really haven't seen enough of him to judge. He's obviously very skillful, but has never done anything when it matters.....hmmm

Cripps_orig
15-06-2011, 08:33 PM
Arseblog doing a FB thing on whether we should ship Vela out or keep hold.

Really haven't seen enough of him to judge. He's obviously very skillful, but has never done anything when it matters.....hmmm

Ship him out. Hes been here long enough and not impressed and more importantly, him being here is an excuse for Wenger not to buy someone as he doesnt want to "kill" Vela blatantly forgetting or ignoring the fact that most Arsenal fans would just love to do that

Cripps_orig
15-06-2011, 08:50 PM
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.rtve.es/&ei=Qhr5TbHTKsOY8QOggOHMCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtelevision%2Bespanola%26hl%3Den%26rlz %3D1T4SKPT_enGB402GB403%26prmd%3Divns

Cesc pining for Barca again.

Click on the link and then the sports bit

Olivier's xmas twist
15-06-2011, 11:01 PM
Sky Sports sources understand that Tottenham have turned down a £22million offer from Chelsea for Luka Modric.
The Croatian playmaker has emerged as one of the Premier League's most creative and stylish performers since arriving at White Hart Lane in 2008.
A series of sparkling displays for Spurs last season reportedly attracted the attention of several clubs, with Manchester United (http://topics.skysports.com/Manchester+United/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif believed to be admirers of the 25-year-old.
However, it is Chelsea (http://topics.skysports.com/chelsea/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif who are believed to have made the first move for Modric (http://topics.skysports.com/Luka+Modric/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif this summer, lodging a big-money bid for his services.
Tottenham rejected the proposal but it is understood that the Blues (http://topics.skysports.com/blues/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif are planning to return with an improved offer that will further test their resolve.
Chelsea are currently without a manager after sacking Carlo Ancelotti (http://topics.skysports.com/Carlo+Ancelotti/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif but owner Roman Abramovich (http://topics.skysports.com/Roman+Abramovich/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif appears ready to invest heavily in the squad as he is determined to bounce back after a season without silverware.
Spurs have previously made it clear that they intend to keep hold of all their key players after missing out on UEFA Champions League qualification.
Harry Redknapp stated over the weekend that Modric was crucial to their hopes of future success, saying: "If we sell Luka we are just a selling club basically."
Modric, though, has refused to rule out the possibility of a transfer this summer

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6991380,00.html

KSE Comedy Club
15-06-2011, 11:06 PM
Roman playing FM again.

I dont know why he doesnt just manage them himself tbh.

Darth Vela
15-06-2011, 11:20 PM
Ship him out. Hes been here long enough and not impressed and more importantly, him being here is an excuse for Wenger not to buy someone as he doesnt want to "kill" Vela blatantly forgetting or ignoring the fact that most Arsenal fans would just love to do that

Yeh, I tend to agree. He hasn't grabbed any chances he's been given and at this point we need guys with cojones rather than another slight, technical player who doesn't seem up for it most of the time. Damn shame as he has plenty of ability and I rather think we had him earmarked as the Chicharito we need, either get Reyes on the blower to point out that you need to take your chances or waste half your career (some might not call a liga title a waste but :shrug:) or send him off somewhere else with a ncie sell-on clause just in case.

Ironing
15-06-2011, 11:27 PM
He's not been given a fair chance yet. Not least compared to other players of his age and time spent at the club.

Darth Vela
15-06-2011, 11:41 PM
Nah, he's been given as many chances as most, more than some, he just hasn't taken anywhere near as much advantage of them as he should, if you do well once in a match and impress in training you get more chances, he hasn't so he hasn't.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 12:10 AM
Arsenal duo Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri have handed the club a double boost by signalling they are both happy to stay at the Emirates.
Full story: Metro[/QUOTE]

Let's put an end to it then and get to the more important stuff.

Sirjackofwilshere
16-06-2011, 12:21 AM
We're signing Defoe and Samba....Fuuuuuu

Toronto Gooner
16-06-2011, 01:23 AM
Arsenal duo Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri have handed the club a double boost by signalling they are both happy to stay at the Emirates.
Full story: Metro

Let's put an end to it then and get to the more important stuff.[/QUOTE]
I would gladly put all of this to rest except there two stories about Nasri: one saying that he wants £6 million a year and another saying that he is not going to sign a new contract. What are we to believe?

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 07:07 AM
Seb Larsson talking to Swedish newspapers has said Arsenal has shown some interest.

Wouldnt mind him.

Better set piece taker than any of our shite lot

good at free kicks but not a improvement on anything else we currently have........may throw his body on the line a bit more but will soon stop doing that once he sees no-one else does it!

so unless he comes for dirt cheap and is willing to be a bit part better to go for Baines as he has a knack for free kicks and would be a mark up on a departing Clichy

Bergkampwonderland10
16-06-2011, 07:46 AM
Daily Mirror linking us with Defoe this morning again. I'd definitely prefer defoe to gervinho - let spurs sign gervinho. Hazard, Defoe and Cahill would be great signings to start with.

LDG
16-06-2011, 08:14 AM
Defoe's an Arsenal fan right??

Still a cunt.

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 08:16 AM
Defoe? :unsure:

LDG
16-06-2011, 08:19 AM
Defoe? :unsure:

I know.

Sucks.

Don't want a fucking spud reserve playing for us.

GP
16-06-2011, 08:20 AM
Defoe is shit.

And we aren't interested in him. You know why?

Cos he's shit. This is nothing more than his agent trying to get him a better deal.

He's also shit.

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 08:22 AM
Not afraid to have a shot but he's been stupidly out of form for ages. We can do better.

GP
16-06-2011, 08:26 AM
Not afraid to have a shot but he's been stupidly out of form for ages. We can do better.

Marlon Harewood :good:

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 08:47 AM
Sperz rejected a 22m Chelsea bid for Modric.

Coney
16-06-2011, 09:28 AM
I think Defoe is underrated by a lot of people. He can do the fox-in-the-box job. If he is not too expensive he would be a neat use of the funds.

McNamara That Ghost...
16-06-2011, 09:49 AM
Defoe has no composure, his main finshing trait, is power, all the time.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 09:52 AM
As mentioned hes been off form for quite some time.

Wouldnt have minded him here 18 months ago but not now

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 09:56 AM
Cahill has a £17m release clause. We dont want to pay more than £15m

Blackburn want £12m for Samba. We wont go more than £9m

These are according to reports.

If we get both despite Wengers stinginess then they will be our first choice CB pairing with Vermaelen moved to left back

LDG
16-06-2011, 10:04 AM
I think Defoe is underrated by a lot of people. He can do the fox-in-the-box job. If he is not too expensive he would be a neat use of the funds.

What's the use of a fox in the box if we only ever get in behind the defence once in two games.

We need width, pace and power. A hold up man, and one playing off him in a 442.

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:07 AM
Cahill has a £17m release clause. We dont want to pay more than £15m

Blackburn want £12m for Samba. We wont go more than £9m

These are according to reports.

If we get both despite Wengers stinginess then they will be our first choice CB pairing with Vermaelen moved to left back

Fuck all other transfers, these 2 have to be the priority!

:pray:

Also found this on BBC gossip


Blackburn Rovers are keen on Aston Villa defender James Collins as a replacement for Arsenal-bound Christopher Samba. (the Times)

DrizzyCole
16-06-2011, 10:09 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/16/2534362/arsenal-in-advanced-talks-to-sign-gary-cahill-christopher

sounds promising

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 10:11 AM
Arsenal are interested in Sunderland goalkeeper Craig Gordon, while Bologna have offered them stopper Emiliano Viviano. (the Times)

No thanks.

As bad as our 3 are, they are all better than Gordon who i just realised is the 3rd most expensive keeper ever

Keane :haha:

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:14 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/16/2534362/arsenal-in-advanced-talks-to-sign-gary-cahill-christopher

sounds promising

He has to do it, get both.

Then, its on ##

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 10:15 AM
good at free kicks but not a improvement on anything else we currently have........may throw his body on the line a bit more but will soon stop doing that once he sees no-one else does it!

so unless he comes for dirt cheap and is willing to be a bit part better to go for Baines as he has a knack for free kicks and would be a mark up on a departing Clichy
Looks like hes going to Sunderland cos he'll get more games there

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:15 AM
No thanks.

As bad as our 3 are, they are all better than Gordon who i just realised is the 3rd most expensive keeper ever

Keane :haha:
I was thinking the same thing :lol:

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:16 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/15/2531503/i-will-do-anything-to-play-for-arsenal-why-lille-man

Piece on Gervinho.



'I will do anything to play for Arsenal'

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 10:18 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/15/2531503/i-will-do-anything-to-play-for-arsenal-why-lille-man

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Not really convinced with Gervinho but hopefully getting him means we get Hazard in the near future so for that alone, hes a must get

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:21 AM
I dont know much about him.

I should actually read the article tbh.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 10:23 AM
I dont know much about him.

I should actually read the article tbh.

Hes African and he plays in France.

Nothing else to know tbh. Hes a perfect Wenger signing

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:32 AM
:lol:

budesonide
16-06-2011, 10:37 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/15/2531503/i-will-do-anything-to-play-for-arsenal-why-lille-man

Piece on Gervinho.




of course he will do anything to play for arsenal.

He will be guaranteed games to showcase his 'talent' for the bigger clubs that 'win stuff'.

selassie
16-06-2011, 10:37 AM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/16/2534362/arsenal-in-advanced-talks-to-sign-gary-cahill-christopher

sounds promising

I can't see us signing both.

It will be one or the other.

KSE Comedy Club
16-06-2011, 10:56 AM
I can't see us signing both.

It will be one or the other.

It would be a huge mistake if we didnt get both.

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 10:57 AM
I could see us signing both, Squillachi moving on, and Kos pushed into CDM.

Ironing
16-06-2011, 11:02 AM
Kos pushed into CDM.

Don't be a muppet

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 11:12 AM
Don't be a muppet

DJ, Verm, and Kos could all play there. Great in the air, good at intercepting, can carry the ball pretty well especially with cover.

Alternatively AW might be considering 3 or 5 at the back. :D

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:24 AM
DJ, Verm, and Kos could all play there. Great in the air, good at intercepting, can carry the ball pretty well especially with cover.

Alternatively AW might be considering 3 or 5 at the back. :D

Well no they cant because they arent DMs

Boss
16-06-2011, 11:32 AM
Well no they cant because they arent DMs

This.

Kos is bad enough as a defender already (his primary position), best to let him keep working on that rather than stick him in a new position. DJ was garbage at DM when he was tried out, and Vermaelen (although more likely to fit in than the other two) has been injured for so long it wouldn't be a surprise if he's forgotten how to defend.

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 11:34 AM
Well no they cant because they arent DMs

DJ certainly started there initially.

Johoan Djourou doesn’t hide it: his dream is the midfield. “Going to Birmingham allows me to play in the number 6 shirt.” Number six – the cat is out of the bag. The defender wants to evolve. “In my head I’m a midfielder, I had to learn to be flexible. It’s in my interest as it opens other doors.”

And I'm sure the other two could be converted to be no nonsense CDM's if needed. Part of the reason why they seem so "unenglish like" is because they where probably midfielders during their youth, Not sure what's so controversial about it.


In other news, tiwtters announcing that Gervinho signs for 11mill, 4 year contract, club will officially announce later this week.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:35 AM
Reminds me of when there were calls to play Toure at DM a few years back :lol:

Our team is fucked up enough. No need to add to it by playing more players out of position

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:37 AM
DJ certainly started there initially.


And I'm sure the other two could be converted to be no nonsense CDM's if needed. Part of the reason why they seem so "unenglish like" is because they where probably midfielders during their youth, Not sure what's so controversial about it.


In other news, tiwtters announcing that Gervinho signs for 11mill, 4 year contract, club will officially announce later this week.
From what i recall, Djourou was awful at Birmingham and came back halfway during a season long loan.

Hes an average CB at best and an even worse DM.

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 11:44 AM
From what i recall, Djourou was awful at Birmingham and came back halfway during a season long loan.

Hes an average CB at best and an even worse DM.
Would be better than denilson :shrug: , though if I could pick and choose any player to fill the role I'd love Tiote or Fellaini.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:47 AM
Would be better than denilson :shrug: , though if I could pick and choose any player to fill the role I'd love Tiote or Fellaini.

No he wouldnt and even if he was, wouldnt make a diff as Denilson isnt our first choice DM.

Anyway get Parker. Better than Tiote and Fellaini

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 11:50 AM
Anyway get Parker. Better than Tiote and Fellaini
http://failheap-challenge.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

It's Garth Barry all over again.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:51 AM
I actually like Fellaini so wouldnt mind him here but other than Tiotes goal against us, he did f all during the season so no thanks and scoring against us shouldnt be seen as a major achievement with the defence and keeper we have

Özim
16-06-2011, 11:51 AM
Well no they cant because they arent DMs
True, Wenger will stick them on the wing anyway.

Darth Vela
16-06-2011, 11:52 AM
Reminds me of when there were calls to play Toure at DM a few years back :lol:

Our team is fucked up enough. No need to add to it by playing more players out of position

That was a bad idea due to his shoddy positioning, Kos' positioning is exemplary and Djourou's is pretty good too, they'd do alright there.

Given our lack of solidity at times, I think having a CB or two that can come on late to shore up the midfield and maybe help out at set-pieces would be a real asset, first choice is stil signing another fricking midfielder who can do a job there though.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 11:54 AM
That was a bad idea due to his shoddy positioning, Kos' positioning is exemplary and Djourou's is pretty good too, they'd do alright there.

Given our lack of solidity at times, I think having a CB or two that can come on late to shore up the midfield and maybe help out at set-pieces would be a real asset, first choice is stil signing another fricking midfielder who can do a job there though.

Bring Grimandi back tbh. Brilliant in our 2 double years and him leaving was the reason we didnt win the title in 02/03

Darth Vela
16-06-2011, 11:57 AM
:lol:

Hell yeah.

Might have lost some pace but he'd chop a few guys down to size.

AKBapologist
16-06-2011, 11:58 AM
I actually like Fellaini so wouldnt mind him here but other than Tiotes goal against us, he did f all during the season so no thanks and scoring against us shouldnt be seen as a major achievement with the defence and keeper we have

If you asked most Newcastle supporters who there most valuable player was, they'd say Tiote, hell, they think he's worth more than Carroll - and that's with all the other scotes including Nolan and Barton. I've watched him play in a number of matches and he's been pretty decent.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 12:02 PM
In other news, Man Utd legend Bebe has joined Beskitas on loan.

Besiktas were reported to be interested in our legend Bendtner so its unlikely anything will come out of that interest now they have Bebe

selassie
16-06-2011, 12:58 PM
It would be a huge mistake if we didnt get both.

I don't think either of them are upgrades on Verms. If I were Arsene I would sign Cahill and pair him up with Verms. I would then sell Squillaci (if anybody will take him) & have JD & Kos as back ups.

The most important signing is a Defensive Coach...but we know that's not going to happen.

LDG
16-06-2011, 01:00 PM
I don't think either of them are upgrades on Verms. If I were Arsene I would sign Cahill and pair him up with Verms. I would then sell Squillaci (if anybody will take him) & have JD & Kos as back ups.

The most important signing is a Defensive Coach...but we know that's not going to happen.

This.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 01:04 PM
We need to improve more than just the defensive side of our game.

Our lack of killer instinct is also a major problem.

Get an attacking coach in as well as some new blood

LDG
16-06-2011, 01:10 PM
We need to improve more than just the defensive side of our game.

Our lack of killer instinct is also a major problem.

Get an attacking coach in as well as some new blood

Do you not think that it's just simply down to the way we play passy passy though.

I mean, the only route to goal we really look for, especially in the last part of the season, is the "eye of a needle" pass. Funny that our two wins from the last 11(?) were goals scored from getting in behind, and getting some width.

Logic would dictate switching to our old style of play. Getting the ball forward quicker and using Theo's only real redeeming quality. Pires/Henry/Ljungberg etc were masters at lovely passing, but the difference between then and now, was that the ball was always moved forward, not sideways.

Killer instinct is a problem....but that could be solved by AW just saying "fucking shoot when you get the chance".

Ollie the Optimist
16-06-2011, 01:34 PM
so twitter reporting that Gervinho deal is done and dusted and all that is left is to agree wages with Samba.

if true

Wenger :bow:

Hump
16-06-2011, 01:39 PM
Twitter is just a system, so who precisely is reporting this. As you should know until you see the picture of the new signings grinning like squaddies in a brothel with Arsene placing an avuncular arm around their shoulders, the deal ain't done.

Ollie the Optimist
16-06-2011, 01:40 PM
the goon blog, young guns blog etc etc are all tweeting about it. you should ask @Kaiser as he is the person who retweets them all so thats where i read them from

Bergkampwonderland10
16-06-2011, 01:43 PM
I actually like Fellaini so wouldnt mind him here but other than Tiotes goal against us, he did f all during the season so no thanks and scoring against us shouldnt be seen as a major achievement with the defence and keeper we have

Have to disagree with that comment - Tiote was one of the genius signings of the season. 3.5million for a true DM who is hard as nails and positionally sound. Excellent, excellent player and an amazing first season in the prem from the dutch league. He would be the last player Newcastle Utd would sell and I can understand why.

Kano
16-06-2011, 01:56 PM
i dunno how neutrals can comment with so much conviction about players that have only had one year in the prem. all its based on is highlights and one or two live matches.

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 02:04 PM
Early doors yet but with Gervinho and possibly a CB coming in, plus some exits that we already know of, it looks like we could be doing some smart business this summer. Out with the old in with the new etc..

Coney
16-06-2011, 02:08 PM
of course he will do anything to play for arsenal.

He will be guaranteed games to showcase his 'talent' for the bigger clubs that 'win stuff'.

Fine - in the process of showing off his talent he will have to help us win more games - if the spin-off of his plan is that we end up winning the title, I can live with that.

Joker
16-06-2011, 02:09 PM
I would've preferred Cahill to Samba tbh. Samba's height and strength would definitely be welcome, and he'd definitely improve our defending at set pieces, but he's still susceptible to being dragged out of position and passing football. I know that it's imperative we sort out our "soft centre", but I think Cahill is a more all round defender, who will both address our Achilles’ heel which is defending aerial bombardments and be comfortable defending against other styles as well.

Coney
16-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Early doors yet but with Gervinho and possibly a CB coming in, plus some exits that we already know of, it looks like we could be doing some smart business this summer. Out with the old in with the new etc..

Some way to go yet, but the initial signs are that Gazidis/Wenger are doing what they said they would do and making significant changes to the team.

Still some way to go yet but the runes are good -we will know soon enough, I reckon well before August. I'd like to see him do it in the next few weeks, not just because we will know, but because we can have a stable team training up together before the start of August - especially in the defence area.

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm not sure if Gervinho is going to play up top or take Bendtner's wide role, but I still feel as though we need a striker, it's not going to happen I know but Falcao or Benzema would be awesome.

Make it happen, Arsene.

selassie
16-06-2011, 02:19 PM
I would've preferred Cahill to Samba tbh. Samba's height and strength would definitely be welcome, and he'd definitely improve our defending at set pieces, but he's still susceptible to being dragged out of position and passing football. I know that it's imperative we sort out our "soft centre", but I think Cahill is a more all round defender, who will both address our Achilles’ heel which is defending aerial bombardments and be comfortable defending against other styles as well.

Yup, I totally agree. I'm not totally sold on Samba, whilst he would be good for PL, I'm not sure how he will fare in CL.

It's all speculation at the mo but I sincerely hope we go for Cahill ahead of Samba.

I suspect if Arsene goes for Samba ahead of Cahill it's because he's cheaper.

Coney
16-06-2011, 02:30 PM
I suspect if Arsene goes for Samba ahead of Cahill it's because he's cheaper.

I'm not so sure that will be the case. I think there is going to be a big change in approach, partly due to Kroenke taking over from the old brigade, partly because Gazidis seems to be saying in pretty clear terms that the collapse this year was not really acceptable - Wenger himself is talking about bigger changes when he would normally just do the 'if we see a player we need for the right price, we will buy, but we only need one or two.' He is not saying that this time round and I think the absence of such comments as he has made for the last few seasons speaks volumes. I am getting more and more convinced that we are going to see significant changes this time round.

selassie
16-06-2011, 02:40 PM
I'm not so sure that will be the case. I think there is going to be a big change in approach, partly due to Kroenke taking over from the old brigade, partly because Gazidis seems to be saying in pretty clear terms that the collapse this year was not really acceptable - Wenger himself is talking about bigger changes when he would normally just do the 'if we see a player we need for the right price, we will buy, but we only need one or two.' He is not saying that this time round and I think the absence of such comments as he has made for the last few seasons speaks volumes. I am getting more and more convinced that we are going to see significant changes this time round.

I hope so.

Hump
16-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Careful old man, you don't want to get too excited too early, you know what that leads to. I just hope that whoever we sign at CB has the same level of skill and pace as Willie Young.

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Do you not think that it's just simply down to the way we play passy passy though.

I mean, the only route to goal we really look for, especially in the last part of the season, is the "eye of a needle" pass. Funny that our two wins from the last 11(?) were goals scored from getting in behind, and getting some width.

Logic would dictate switching to our old style of play. Getting the ball forward quicker and using Theo's only real redeeming quality. Pires/Henry/Ljungberg etc were masters at lovely passing, but the difference between then and now, was that the ball was always moved forward, not sideways.

Killer instinct is a problem....but that could be solved by AW just saying "fucking shoot when you get the chance".
It is and there we have it in a nut shell.

Our problems be it defensive or offensive are not that diffuclt to fix for a half decent manager which unfortunately Wenger isnt anymore.

A simple "just shoot when you have the fucking chance" instruction might solve the killer instinct problem and a simple "hoof it you cunts" might solve the defensive side but can we really see Wenger doing that?

Cesc for all wonderful talent is a slow fucker. He needs to move the ball much quicker. Wilshere needs to be more offensive as well instead of the side passes he always does. We need to pick up the pace. Theo is our only fast player and he is nowhere near used enough

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
good at free kicks but not a improvement on anything else we currently have........may throw his body on the line a bit more but will soon stop doing that once he sees no-one else does it!

so unless he comes for dirt cheap and is willing to be a bit part better to go for Baines as he has a knack for free kicks and would be a mark up on a departing Clichy


Looks like hes going to Sunderland cos he'll get more games there

who are we to get in the way of a man with ambition:whistle:

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 03:06 PM
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2011/06/16/2534683/barcelona-could-spend-more-than-40m-this-summer-club

More shite from Barca.

This time from the president saying Cesc isnt worth as much as they offered last year.

Who the hell does he think he is saying how much our player is worth? Fucking hate that club and everything to do with them

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 03:09 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 03:12 PM
Do you not think that it's just simply down to the way we play passy passy though.

I mean, the only route to goal we really look for, especially in the last part of the season, is the "eye of a needle" pass. Funny that our two wins from the last 11(?) were goals scored from getting in behind, and getting some width.

Logic would dictate switching to our old style of play. Getting the ball forward quicker and using Theo's only real redeeming quality. Pires/Henry/Ljungberg etc were masters at lovely passing, but the difference between then and now, was that the ball was always moved forward, not sideways.

Killer instinct is a problem....but that could be solved by AW just saying "fucking shoot when you get the chance".


I'll second that......they guys know where the goal is but seem to forget that they have to kick the round leather thing fairly hardish in the direction of the goal in such a way that the guy wering the oversize gloves does not stop it - that is something Defoe definitely has going for him!

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 03:16 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.

ohh that brings back memories seem to remember we were among the group clamouring for this guy last time the story was doing the rounds........Mario Balotelli was another, not sure bout him now tho???

Citeh will snap up Eto'o because they will be the only ones stupid enough to meet his wah=ge demands without batting an eyelid

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 03:17 PM
ohh that brings back memories seem to remember we were among the group clamouring for this guy last time the story was doing the rounds........Mario Balotelli was another, not sure bout him now tho???

Citeh will snap up Eto'o because they will be the only ones stupid enough to meet his wah=ge demands without batting an eyelid

If only he played in France :(

An African in France is Wengers specialty

Sirjackofwilshere
16-06-2011, 03:18 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.

Eto would be immense...would bang in the 500 half chances we get in a match. Get him in Wenger.

Jenkinson
Samba
Gervinho
Cahill?
Willian?

:partytime:

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 03:20 PM
Eto would be immense...would bang in the 500 half chances we get in a match. Get him in Wenger.

Jenkinson
Samba
Gervinho
Cahill?
Willian?

:partytime:

Jenkinson can gtfo tbh
Samba must get
Gervinho meh
Cahill prefer someone better
Willian id take

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 03:24 PM
Twitter is just a system, so who precisely is reporting this. As you should know until you see the picture of the new signings grinning like squaddies in a brothel with Arsene placing an avuncular arm around their shoulders, the deal ain't done.

shit by the way things are going the photographs called in had best bring wide lens because AW is going to be in the middle of an army of new signings

going to make Liverpool mob think bck to the days of Rafa!!!!

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 03:32 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.

I've always been a massive fan of this guy, he's been a dream signing for many years now.

Nothing flashy about him, just about as clinical and as instinctive a striker as you will find. Even now he's hit 30 I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 03:33 PM
Jenkinson can gtfo tbh -
Samba must get -
Gervinho meh - ditto
Cahill prefer someone better -
Willian id take -

Jenkinson can gtfo tbh - he will the reserves and CC await
Samba must get - looks like we are getting closer, I know his football may be a bit sus but could prove to be n inspirtional signing, will definietly out to prove a point
Gervinho meh - ditto
Cahill prefer someone better - good enough and signing him with Samba will show that AW is more thn aware of where one of our problems lie
Willian id take - if only to get Denilson off the payroll


and I am not 100% against Defoe as we do need another striker but surely another signing would be stretching things a bit

not unless AW was abducted by aliens and replaced with a new prototype - maybe Stan is friends with Tom Crusie and his scientology crazies and had them put call in??

Master Splinter
16-06-2011, 03:52 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.
Your best post ever tbh.

The best striker of his generation and one of the best players overall too.

And what African from France has Wenger signed recently? Chamakh is French born and bred.

Master Splinter
16-06-2011, 03:54 PM
Defoe is shit.

And we aren't interested in him. You know why?

Cos he's shit. This is nothing more than his agent trying to get him a better deal.

He's also shit.

:gp:

He's also a scrote.

And shit.

budesonide
16-06-2011, 03:54 PM
Do you not think that it's just simply down to the way we play passy passy though.

I mean, the only route to goal we really look for, especially in the last part of the season, is the "eye of a needle" pass. Funny that our two wins from the last 11(?) were goals scored from getting in behind, and getting some width.

Logic would dictate switching to our old style of play. Getting the ball forward quicker and using Theo's only real redeeming quality. Pires/Henry/Ljungberg etc were masters at lovely passing, but the difference between then and now, was that the ball was always moved forward, not sideways.

Killer instinct is a problem....but that could be solved by AW just saying "fucking shoot when you get the chance".

You are assuming the players we've got, are that good and that intelligent enough to pull it off over and over again. They are not as good as the invincibles or Barca to play just a specific way.

Therefore, the smart thing to do then is for AW to pull his head out of his arse and instil flexibility in the teamplay (he doesn't have to if his players were that good and that smart) and make us less predictable. Barca are predictable but they are too good not to beat most teams the only way they know how.

For example, Henry was so good that even though 90% of the time he'll strike the ball across the goalkeeper into the far bottom corner, he almost always scored with that trademark finish. He was that good, he could repeat it over and over again with guaranteed success.

LDG
16-06-2011, 04:02 PM
Samuel Eto'o wants to try his luck in England.

Must get.

It would be amazing. Him and Song get along famously already!

Srsly tho. Awesome player.

Japan Shaking All Over
16-06-2011, 04:04 PM
right you are take that as a 'no' to Defoe

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 04:28 PM
It would be amazing. Him and Song get along famously already!

Srsly tho. Awesome player.

If Song has a problem with it, we should sell him tbh

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 04:30 PM
I've always been a massive fan of this guy, he's been a dream signing for many years now.

Nothing flashy about him, just about as clinical and as instinctive a striker as you will find. Even now he's hit 30 I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Rebuilt his career well at Inter after the shocker at his previous club.

Real legend :bow:

Must get

Marc Overmars
16-06-2011, 04:32 PM
:lol:

Ollie the Optimist
16-06-2011, 04:38 PM
Serious question. It looks like we will sign samba and gervinho, if wenger signs cahil too and perhaps one more. Is it enough or do you want more?

Cripps_orig
16-06-2011, 04:40 PM
Serious question. It looks like we will sign samba and gervinho, if wenger signs cahil too and perhaps one more. Is it enough or do you want more?http://puppies-image.co.cc/images/xh/cute-puppy-pictures-loldogs-please-sir-may-i-have-some-more.jpg

Sirjackofwilshere
16-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Arsenal have been rebuffed in an attempt to sign Shakhtar Donetsk ace Douglas Costa, according to the player's agent.
The Brazil Under-20 midfielder caught the eye for the Ukrainian side this season during their run to the Champions League quarter-finals and has been linked with a move away this summer.
And, speaking to Calciomercato.com, his agent Cesar Bottega has claimed that Arsenal have approached Shakhtar with a swap deal involving out-of-favour midfielder Denilson.
The 23-year-old has announced his desire to leave the Emirates after failing to cement a place in the Gunners (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/clubs/t3/arsenal)' midfield and will almost certainly depart before the start of the season.
It had been reported that Arsenal have already offered Denilson in a swap deal for fellow Shakhtar midfielder Willian, who is also Brazilian.
But Douglas Costa's agent now thinks that Arsenal are after a different Samba star from the club's ranks - but they won't get him unless they pay up.
Bottega said: "The Gunners have offered the club Denilson in exchange for Douglas but Shakhtar said no. They are not interested in Denilson and would want only money."





Looks like we're stuck with Denilshit :rose:

He did play against them away tbf and put in his normal shit performance so we can't convince them on the back of youtube vids unfortunatley.

Darth Vela
16-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Serious question. It looks like we will sign samba and gervinho, if wenger signs cahil too and perhaps one more. Is it enough or do you want more?

Depends entirely on who or what the 'one more' is, if he's a midfielder with a bit of grit/physicality or whatever and we don't lose anyone of note (i.e. Cesc + Nasri) then I'd be relatively happy.

Incidentally http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/8381/6/costa-agent-confirms-arsenal-bid-shakhtar-donetsk-star?


"The Gunners have offered the club Denilson in exchange for Douglas but Shakhtar said no. They are not interested in Denilson."

That bit just cracked me up, I'm guessing we're going to try that with every deal this summer.

Sirjackofwilshere
16-06-2011, 04:52 PM
http://puppies-image.co.cc/images/xh/cute-puppy-pictures-loldogs-please-sir-may-i-have-some-more.jpg

http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/download/file.php?avatar=28729_1281197918.jpg

Özim
16-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Depends entirely on who or what the 'one more' is, if he's a midfielder with a bit of grit/physicality or whatever and we don't lose anyone of note (i.e. Cesc + Nasri) then I'd be relatively happy.

Incidentally http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/8381/6/costa-agent-confirms-arsenal-bid-shakhtar-donetsk-star?



That bit just cracked me up, I'm guessing we're going to try that with every deal this summer.
Yeah reckon Shaktar would be more tempted by a plate of dogshite than Denilson to be honest, looks like we're going to have some serious problems offloading this deluded soul......and here I was hoping they would let us have Willian in an exchange!