FUCK OFF NOW WENGER! YOU'RE A JOKE MAN.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I pity the fool.

Who messes with me

[Xhaka Can’t]

Spoken like a true 15 yr old. Its said that those who worry about gays are more likely gay themselves

Sorry.

Thought you knew the difference between 'gay' and 'ghay'.

[GP]

Spoken like a true 15 yr old. Its said that those who worry about gays are more likely gay themselves

lol your gay

[KSE Comedy Club]

Chill out tinkerbell.

I wasn't calling you that

i thought it was directed at me

Hairy muff

[fakeyank]

I feel no sympathy for Wenger, none at all.

I do not believe that the board is preventing him from doing what he wants to do as manager. IMO the idea is ludicrous. For one, if he is being forced into looking like a shadow of his former self - why not walk? Plenty of managers have done when they feel undermined. Second, look at all the dud players that AW has signed, who are now being paid so much that our wage bill is obscenely bloated relative to the talent we have. Why would the board on the one hand allow him to piss away the club's resources, and on the other deny him the funds to keep his best players or to buy the players he wants. It just doesn't make sense.

Where the board is at fault is in allowing AW to have too much power and say in what's going on, not too little. Because he's a cash cow for them (by selling the crown jewels each year), they are happy and complacent in allowing a monomaniac to run the team down.

Let's face it. Wenger is washed up. His scouting network - that used to find hidden gems - is in tatters, and shown up by those of so-called lesser teams who are now doing a better job. With the bar much more level these days in terms of scouting; training methods; diet and general fitness, it is mental strength; tactics and man-management that creates the edge - and Wenger, never brilliant at any of these, is being left behind. His methodology is flawed, and its resulting in players going backwards rather than developing - and the players can see this and clearly no longer believe in him.

Football supporters and commentators aren't completely stupid. They have seen a situation like we are in before and are sensing blood. We are in an aircraft that is going down, but because the pilot has refused to allow any competent co-pilots to accompany him, there is noone to pull us out of the dive.

And in the back of the plane, our board is like a bunch of monkeys too busy eating their own faeces to even notice.

Great post in general but the two parts in bold take it to legendary status!

[Power n Glory]

I feel no sympathy for Wenger, none at all.

I do not believe that the board is preventing him from doing what he wants to do as manager. IMO the idea is ludicrous. For one, if he is being forced into looking like a shadow of his former self - why not walk? Plenty of managers have done when they feel undermined. Second, look at all the dud players that AW has signed, who are now being paid so much that our wage bill is obscenely bloated relative to the talent we have. Why would the board on the one hand allow him to piss away the club's resources, and on the other deny him the funds to keep his best players or to buy the players he wants. It just doesn't make sense.

Where the board is at fault is in allowing AW to have too much power and say in what's going on, not too little. Because he's a cash cow for them (by selling the crown jewels each year), they are happy and complacent in allowing a monomaniac to run the team down.

Let's face it. Wenger is washed up. His scouting network - that used to find hidden gems - is in tatters, and shown up by those of so-called lesser teams who are now doing a better job. With the bar much more level these days in terms of scouting; training methods; diet and general fitness, it is mental strength; tactics and man-management that creates the edge - and Wenger, never brilliant at any of these, is being left behind. His methodology is flawed, and its resulting in players going backwards rather than developing - and the players can see this and clearly no longer believe in him.

Football supporters and commentators aren't completely stupid. They have seen a situation like we are in before and are sensing blood. We are in an aircraft that is going down, but because the pilot has refused to allow any competent co-pilots to accompany him, there is noone to pull us out of the dive.

And in the back of the plane, our board is like a bunch of monkeys too busy eating their own faeces to even notice.

He defends the Board whenever they are in the firing line and insists this is the best way for the club to be run. There is no need for him to put him reputation on the line like this. The issue with the wage bill and the transfers is another good point. Why would they be okay with the wage bill to balloon but penny pinch over signings?

As for the Board, the real worry is that there is nobody there that knows enough about the game that can really stamp their authority and lead the club. That is why Wenger gets so much say from top to bottom. It's a real mess. My only hope for the future is that when a new manager is appointed, he's given the same sort of say Wenger had regarding the vision for the club. Someone that can appoint his own staff and set things in motion. Wenger came with the idea of building the training ground, a bigger stadium, the youth set up like Ajax...he's laid the groundwork but he needs to pass the baton before he drops it or burns himself out and we're left well behind the rest. I used to think the next manager would inherit a great team. That is looking far from likely now.

[KSE Comedy Club]

You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.

Which he was responsible for gutting.

If he wanted to keep that team together then the answer was simple.

It wasn't about silly wages or playing positions, it was about adding quality and strength. That's all the players wanted so they had the chance to win something.

All wenger did was buy young nobody's or cheap shit that other teams didn't want and in the end those players had enough.

[Niall_Quinn]

I feel no sympathy for Wenger, none at all.

I do not believe that the board is preventing him from doing what he wants to do as manager. IMO the idea is ludicrous. For one, if he is being forced into looking like a shadow of his former self - why not walk? Plenty of managers have done when they feel undermined. Second, look at all the dud players that AW has signed, who are now being paid so much that our wage bill is obscenely bloated relative to the talent we have. Why would the board on the one hand allow him to piss away the club's resources, and on the other deny him the funds to keep his best players or to buy the players he wants. It just doesn't make sense.

Where the board is at fault is in allowing AW to have too much power and say in what's going on, not too little. Because he's a cash cow for them (by selling the crown jewels each year), they are happy and complacent in allowing a monomaniac to run the team down.

Let's face it. Wenger is washed up. His scouting network - that used to find hidden gems - is in tatters, and shown up by those of so-called lesser teams who are now doing a better job. With the bar much more level these days in terms of scouting; training methods; diet and general fitness, it is mental strength; tactics and man-management that creates the edge - and Wenger, never brilliant at any of these, is being left behind. His methodology is flawed, and its resulting in players going backwards rather than developing - and the players can see this and clearly no longer believe in him.

Football supporters and commentators aren't completely stupid. They have seen a situation like we are in before and are sensing blood. We are in an aircraft that is going down, but because the pilot has refused to allow any competent co-pilots to accompany him, there is noone to pull us out of the dive.

And in the back of the plane, our board is like a bunch of monkeys too busy eating their own faeces to even notice.

You're looking at it from a football perspective again, which is understandable because you are a fan. But that's not the way the monkeys at Arsenal look at things. We might be on the jet going down but you won't find the moneys at the back, they are in the other jet soaring through the clouds. I bet if you checked both altimeters theirs would read identical to ours but without that minus stuck in front. Wenger's a weird case because he's on the first class flight but he's left his luggage in the doomed economy class aircraft that's destined to hit the deck. Truth is, these guys aren't clueless monkeys at all. You don't clear half a billion and then set the flight plan for a go around to do it all again unless you have a few more smarts than a monkey.

[Özim]

I've got no sympathy for Wenger, he's benefited hugely from the profits in the form of a huge salary, has been allowed to pretty much do whatever he wants without any repercussions and has been able to go year after year without winning a thing.

His tactics have been very questionable, signings pretty average overall and coaching it seems non-existent judging from the teams problems. If he was truly a victim in this he could have walked away, indeed I'd have respected him more if he had, at least it would have shown winning matters to him, instead he's stuck around picked up his money and supported the board 100% whilst largely bulsh*tting the fans.

I don't really think the guy deserves sympathy considering what he's done and the way he's acted in recent years, is there anyone on here who wouldn't love to have had the opportunities he's had?

[Özim]

You're looking at it from a football perspective again, which is understandable because you are a fan. But that's not the way the monkeys at Arsenal look at things. We might be on the jet going down but you won't find the moneys at the back, they are in the other jet soaring through the clouds. I bet if you checked both altimeters theirs would read identical to ours but without that minus stuck in front. Wenger's a weird case because he's on the first class flight but he's left his luggage in the doomed economy class aircraft that's destined to hit the deck. Truth is, these guys aren't clueless monkeys at all. You don't clear half a billion and then set the flight plan for a go around to do it all again unless you have a few more smarts than a monkey.

As he said though, noone forced the guy to stay on, he wasn't tied to a chair with a gun to his head, if he wasn't happy he could have walked away from the money and found another job. Clearly he's been very happy doing his job as he wants to do it.