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    Falcao is better.

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    Shocking the way Ramsey is treated by FIFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Falcao is better.
    exactly. rvp was and still is great but this guy is even better, so rvp just makes 5th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You can make a case for RvP but no, he wouldn't have Messi's record if he went to Barca.
    He's good but he's not in the debate for 'best player ever' which Messi definitely is and Ronaldo would be were Messi not around.
    ballon d'or is not a case for the best player ever and should not even be mentioned in this debate. its a completely separate issue. the award is a case for the best player in the previous season.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Ballon_d'Or

    van persie was voted the best player in the english premier league last season. so he deserves a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    exactly. rvp was and still is great but this guy is even better, so rvp just makes 5th.
    actually jason roberts gave us a hard time in the 7-5 at the madejski.

    so rvp drops down to 6th.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    havnt you just argued there, that it should be messi and rvp to win it and not ronaldo? or have i completely misread that. im only asking as i know you hate barca, but it seems you jsut made an argument for ronaldo not win?
    Only if the award was based on importance of their teams which it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    the award is a case for the best player in the previous season.
    A season, well OK a calendar year in which Messi broke the all time record for goals scored...

    RvP certainly should be included in the debate but he's not at Messi or Ronaldo's ridiculous level.

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    He's not playing in a league as ridiculously weak as Messi/Ronaldo are tbf.

    The King Is Back.

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    How can anyone other than Messi win this? He's just scored the most goals ever in a year. Surely no contest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    He's not playing in a league as ridiculously weak as Messi/Ronaldo are tbf.
    Oh yeah, the PL is top, top quality

    The Spanish league provided both finalists of the Europa League last year and 2 of the 4 semi-finalists of the CL.
    #justsayin'

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