Ballon D'Or 2012

[Ollie the Optimist]

In terms of importance to their respective teams, RVC is up there with Messi. Take both out of their teams and their teams finish mid table. Take Ronaldo out of Real and Real are still awesome, just not as much cos they have others who can take up the goal scoring. So on that basis, the **** deserves to be up there. **** being RVC, not the druggie

havnt you just argued there, that it should be messi and rvp to win it and not ronaldo? or have i completely misread that. im only asking as i know you hate barca, but it seems you jsut made an argument for ronaldo not win?

[Cripps_orig]

havnt you just argued there, that it should be messi and rvp to win it and not ronaldo? or have i completely misread that. im only asking as i know you hate barca, but it seems you jsut made an argument for ronaldo not win?

Only if the award was based on importance of their teams which it isn't.