gervinho? he's cack. people cant on one hand say he's shit then try to justify their argument by suggesting he's good and that he should have started.

he was never going to be a world beater this season and wont be for a few years (at least), so no point talking about him.

as for the ox, yes, thats where i agree with you. but is that really enough for a club pushing for glory? it clearly isn't. we need more. who's to blame? board and manager. not the players.