Match Reaction vs QPR

[Power n Glory]

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But it did crop up! Because the criticism seems to be not just about losing to QPR but about the cyclical failure to compete at the very top. If people are complaining about 3rd place and saying TV needs to GTFO and Wenger should be sacked and so on, I assume this is not on the back of a single loss to QPR but rather on the performance across the season as a whole? Or even multiple seasons? Or fuck, maybe it is just based on one game. But assuming not.

We're usually fourth, right now we're third. If that's not good enough then are we supposed to be top or second? Above two clubs who pour countless millions more into their squads? Be nice if we were but if we're going to start sacking everyone then the aim must be to get something better. So to compete at the top we'll need to start spending on the levels of the Manchester clubs. So this is why the board absolutely should be mentioned if other individuals are going to be singled out. They won't spend the money so we're already as high as we can go. So why do people want to sack everyone for getting us as far as can realistically be expected? Shouldn't they want to sack the fuckers who have imposed the glass ceiling?

QPR shouldn't be the glass ceiling. If we lost against City and the clubs that spent more than us, then you'd have a valid point.

[Niall_Quinn]

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QPR shouldn't be the glass ceiling. If we lost against City and the clubs that spent more than us, then you'd have a valid point.

No, the lack of investment is the glass ceiling. If we finish third this season we'll have our noses pushed against it. I do have a point, you're ignoring it and talking about something else.

[Power n Glory]

No, the lack of investment is the glass ceiling. If we finish third this season we'll have our noses pushed against it. I do have a point, you're ignoring it and talking about something else.

Yeah, I'm talking about football. When we lose Carling Cup finals against relegated teams and lose games like how we lost yesterday, little sense in talking about our finances. When you flip the coin, there are teams that have beaten us operating on a smaller budget. How can that be explained? It has nothing to do with Board level stuff, just a well drilled organised, motivated team and a coach with a gameplan. That's all it boils down to. We were on a 7 game winning streak and have beaten better teams than QPR. You weren't talking about squad depth, the board and finances then. Circumanstances regarding top level dealings were the same then as they are now. It comes down to bad preparation and our players losing focus. Can't keep blaming the board for every loss. As said before, when the pre season preparation starts, that's where they'll be more influential and should be setting goals for the club, but right now, this is the managers and players territory. 90 minutes on a football field. I get the frustration about always finishing 3rd/4th but it's because of these silly slips and not because we keep dropping point against teams with more money than us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah, I'm talking about football. When we lose Carling Cup finals against relegated teams and lose games like how we lost yesterday, little sense in talking about our finances. When you flip the coin, there are teams that have beaten us operating on a smaller budget. How can that be explained? It has nothing to do with Board level stuff, just a well drilled organised, motivated team and a coach with a gameplan. That's all it boils down to. We were on a 7 game winning streak and have beaten better teams than QPR. You weren't talking about squad depth, the board and finances then. Circumanstances regarding top level dealings were the same then as they are now. It comes down to bad preparation and our players losing focus. Can't keep blaming the board for every loss. As said before, when the pre season preparation starts, that's where they'll be more influential and should be setting goals for the club, but right now, this is the managers and players territory. 90 minutes on a football field. I get the frustration about always finishing 3rd/4th but it's because of these silly slips and not because we keep dropping point against teams with more money than us.

You've changed the subject entirely. My original comments were directed at the idea TV and Wenger should be out because they aren't of a sufficient standard. My argument was we're 3rd in the table and if you want to go up another level then get the chequebook out. This is simple to understand.

Don't disagree about improving at the squad level in terms of preparation, tactics and the like. But that has nothing to do what I was talking about. You're the guy who insisted the board shouldn't be discussed. I was just explaining to somebody else why being 3rd isn't grounds for sacking everyone.

I get buzzed when we win and pissed off when we lose too, just like everyone. But there are some pretty crazy swings going on with some people. It's silly.

[Lord Nelson]

No, the lack of investment is the glass ceiling. If we finish third this season we'll have our noses pushed against it. I do have a point, you're ignoring it and talking about something else.

Hate to say it, but Harry Redknapp does not have massive funds! But look at the spuds! In my opinion, they will get third. Even if Wenger had money given to him, he would waste it on signings from fucking japan or something! He is just tactically inept. Not sure who would replace him though?

[fakeyank]

Hate to say it, but Harry Redknapp does not have massive funds! But look at the spuds! In my opinion, they will get third. Even if Wenger had money given to him, he would waste it on signings from fucking japan or something! He is just tactically inept. Not sure who would replace him though?

Forget arry, look at SAF.. utd don't spend anywhere close to Chelsea n city yet look at where they are n where we are! One person is concerned about things on the football pitch while the other is busy getting low with the board and being their mouthpiece.

[Letters]

Forget arry, look at SAF.. utd don't spend anywhere close to Chelsea n city yet look at where they are n where we are!

That is a more valid comparison but Ferguson is just about the best manager of all time.
It's like comparing someone to Usain Bolt, realising they're not as fast and concluding they must be shit.
Ferguson > Wenger, clearly. But Ferguson > everyone, so it's irrelevant.
The more relevant question is who could we realistically replace Wenger with, given that the board wouldn't change and they set the agenda, who would do better? I'm not saying there is no-one out there who could but I'd suggest the list is not as long as you seem to think.

[GP]

That is a more valid comparison but Ferguson is just about the best manager of all time.
It's like comparing someone to Usain Bolt, realising they're not as fast and concluding they must be shit.
Ferguson > Wenger, clearly. But Ferguson > everyone, so it's irrelevant.
The more relevant question is who could we realistically replace Wenger with, given that the board wouldn't change and they set the agenda, who would do better? I'm not saying there is no-one out there who could but I'd suggest the list is not as long as you seem to think.

You're wrong!

Now don't challenge my opinion or I'll put you on ignore

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[Power n Glory]

You're wrong!

Now don't challenge my opinion or I'll put you on ignore

: p'n'g:

Don't be a prick.

If you're going to wum leave me out of it.

[LDG]

We were gonna drop points and have an off day at some point. Happens to every team. As long as we don't go on a massive losing streak. Which I don't think we will.

Meh.

On to City. Time to beat the shit out of that little lesbian.