Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
It's also down to Wenger that 4th place now is considered a major achievement now and is the definition of succees and that picking up trophies doesn't matter as much as long as you get 4th.

Give me back the pre-Wenger days anytime because at least then picking up trophies was considered success not anything else, it's one thing coming 4th every season but entirely another thing hailing it as success.
So the Invincbles was aim was not wo win trophies then?