Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
You're not looking at the evidence, you're reframing it to fit your theory.
Obviously Wenger cares about the club, there were times back in the day when he could have walked out for bigger money and a bigger club, but he didn't.
And he is obviously not oblibious to how things are going. I think he thinks he can fix it, but I'm pretty sure he can't.

Are we in a big mess? We have a squad that should be challenging for the title - the fact they're not is down to Wenger. We have a stadium and fanbase generating enough money that we should be competing with anyone - the fact they're not is down to Wenger. Wenger won't leave us in a mess, we're in a mess because of Wenger. Like Mourinho last year - he had them close to the relegation zone. He didn't leave them in a mess, look at them now, they were in a mess because of him. Remove Wenger and get someone in who can get them playing for him and each other and we'll be fine.

What's the worst that can happen if we do keep losing. We'll finish 8th or 9th instead of 5th or 6th? So? Does that really matter? So I wouldn't go so far to saying I hope we lose games, but I'm past caring if we do. If every loss pushes Wenger closer to the door then it's for the greater good.
Letters, as NQ has already stated we can't compare ourselves to Chelsea, we're in a mess through years of underachievement and lack of investment by Wenger and the board.

We are not in a unique position whereby we are falling out of the top 4 through some one-off season where everything has gone against us, we are where we are because we are stagnating...or if we want to be kind standing still. We have stood still for years now, little to no improvement for 5 fucking years! Everything apart from the Manager has changed yet we see the same fucking results!

Removing Wenger is a start but we have a deeply flawed mentally at the club, from the top right through to the bottom a "anything goes" mentality has been fabricated into the club, we have had a owner, manager and chief executive on regular occassions tell us winning isn't everything, they don't care about winning.

Until we put in a sustained effort to PROPERLY compete for the big prizes we're in a mess, it doesn't make sense that a club of our stature should have owners and managers happy to just take part, it's a disgrace.