Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
to answer both your posts:

I agree we should have got Caicedo instead but I'm not allowing Rice's price tag to prejudice me agianst him and whether he adds something or not and i think he does.

As for doing the basics, we need someone other than Zin to try to connect play up in the middle, as Zin blatantly can't do the basics and keeps giving the ball away - over time I was hoping Timber and Rice between them would convince Arteta to give up his Zin obsession ut with Timber injured i guess that's not happening

Havertz is the one who adds nothing except in terms of being another player that Arteta will now persist with because he's tied his reputation to him - how many of these do we need?

Havertz was kind of playing up front at times on Saturday and completely messed up every opportunity.

I too am a fan of Jorg and I think we will see him play a bit in various competitions

I think this is going to go round and round. I honestly don’t know what you’re seeing with Rice. I could just debase this conversation by going on about how you saw Xhaka being a teachers pet but I don’t think that’s necessary.

Connect play up in the middle? He can’t do that. He’s not quick enough or technical enough. I’m not saying that to be spiteful but it’s just the case. Jorginho has the range of passing and Partey can potentially carry the ball forward so in reality you want Partey playing at no 8 Sunday.

You would then bring on Rice if we were leading and need someone to tidy things up


I don’t know with Havertz, he hasn’t admittedly offered anything so far but although there were better and cheaper options for this, what he offers that no one else does is he can hold up the ball (and he did so against city) and he can offer more aerial threat than Jesus or Edward.


I think Chelsea was always a mess of a club even when he joined it first of all. And it’s possible you won’t ever see the player he was at Bayer Leverkusen. But I do know there’s clearly a player of great skill and potential in there, it’s possible Arteta lacks the ability to bring it out of him.

Rice WYSIWYG….and yeah it’s tidy and efficient. But we need more than tidy and efficient. And because of that, playing him amounts to a waste of a position