What's the point getting 4th place?

[Joker]

Whenever we've faced a decent side in the Champions League recently, we've gone out. Yes, we can make it out of the group phase comfortably, because the quality of opposition is so mediocre, but you know we'll struggle to get beyond the Quarter Finals these days. Yet Wenger acts as if qualification for this tournament is the holy grail. But what's the point if you're not even competing with the best teams in this tournament, and simply making up the numbers? Sure, smaller teams may just be happy to participate in the UCL, but we're meant to be a big club, and our move to the Emirates was supposed to facilitate our ascent to the top table of European football and become part of the elite. Instead, we've regressed so far that we are simply satisfied to qualify for the tournament, and pick up the money which is all the board and Wenger care about.

I don't give a shit about 4th place anymore, give me 5th/6th and an FA Cup win any day. The Arsenal Economists may think I'm talking bollocks, but I'm a fan at the end of the day, not an accountant worried about the financial costs and benefits of winning the FA Cup compared to qualifying for the UCL.

[Cripps_orig]

Depends on whose point of view it is

Fans? No point at all

The team? Not sure. Maybe they dont want to be humiliated in the biggest competition of all again

Wenger and the board? Every reason to get 4th. Yachts dont pay for themselves

[Xhaka Can’t]

None whatsoever.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Probably none but then unless Wenger will be sacked because of it (he did say it was compulsory) not much will change anyway. Plus, I can't will us to do worse in the league even if it does serve a supposed greater good.

[hymppi]

[QUOTE= unless Wenger will be sacked because of it (he did say it was compulsory) [/QUOTE]
oh yeah, now what AW?
europe league is not that bad? still great teams in there? it will attract players?
fuck off, AW.

[Marc Overmars]

No point, we can't compete on this stage anymore, our style of football is bog standard Premier League and I'd also pose serious questions about the mentality the manager imposes on this team. You have to wonder if they even realised the magnitude of the game they were playing in. What a horrible, half-arsed effort it was.

Getting 4th this year is only going to delude Wenger into thinking this team is capable of something better, when it painfully isn't.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Whenever we've faced a decent side in the Champions League recently, we've gone out. Yes, we can make it out of the group phase comfortably, because the quality of opposition is so mediocre, but you know we'll struggle to get beyond the Quarter Finals these days. Yet Wenger acts as if qualification for this tournament is the holy grail. But what's the point if you're not even competing with the best teams in this tournament, and simply making up the numbers? Sure, smaller teams may just be happy to participate in the UCL, but we're meant to be a big club, and our move to the Emirates was supposed to facilitate our ascent to the top table of European football and become part of the elite. Instead, we've regressed so far that we are simply satisfied to qualify for the tournament, and pick up the money which is all the board and Wenger care about.

I don't give a shit about 4th place anymore, give me 5th/6th and an FA Cup win any day. The Arsenal Economists may think I'm talking bollocks, but I'm a fan at the end of the day, not an accountant worried about the financial costs and benefits of winning the FA Cup compared to qualifying for the UCL.

There is no gurantee us not being in the cl means we will win a cup or anything will change, with this club they seems to make up the rules as they go along.

had we had a bit of qulity in this team we'd have gone further tbh. i agree no point in being in the cl if were not going to invest for it.

[hymppi]

the thing is i don't think we'll end up with the 4th spot.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

oh yeah, now what AW?
europe league is not that bad? still great teams in there? it will attract players?
fuck off, AW.

Yep won't need to spend big either tbh

[Letters]

the thing is i don't think we'll end up with the 4th spot.

It is quite amazing we're there now, shows how crap Chelsea and Liverpool are.
When RvP goes (and he'd be stupid not to, tbh, unless we show some actual ambition in the summer and convince him we can turn things around and start heading in the right direction again) we'll be in mid-table. He's the only thing keeping us in the hunt for 4th right now.

Maybe we need to finish lower for a season. Maybe it's jolt the powers that be into realising we can't keep replacing quality players with mediocre ones and keep competing.