Should Wenger go?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Can we stop with the 'holier than thou' tripe that keeps getting repeated on here.

Ok, some of you might not like the name calling and abusive type posts that get put on here at times, but I don't think people's backgrounds / way of life are taken into account on here.

Just because someone wants to call wenger a ****, it doesn't make them childish or a 'spoilt toddler', just someone that is angry, frustrated and venting.

It might sound harsh but some people view these names, etc differently to others.
I had a debate with letters a while ago as to wether anyone would call wenger a **** to his face. He didnt think anyone would, I said I know plenty of people that would and wouldn't batter an eyelid.

The only reason being that I work in a small factory, and every bloke there has called someone a 'fucking ****' at some point, either jokingly or seriously. It's just another way of venting for them.

Office workers are a lot more composed as its a very different environment.

It just comes across as elitist. We're all arsenal fans, we all want the club to be a success and get back to winning ways, now is the time to stick together not put a bigger wedge between us.

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[KSE Comedy Club]

So, in your next post you'll be having a go at FY for calling anyone with a different view from his dumbasses? Can't wait. The odd bit of venting is excusable - but almost every single post?

I'm not having a go.

And yes FY has to also accept that people aren't thick, retarded or dumbasses just because they might want wenger to stay. That goes for zimm and ach too.

Part of me would love for him to be tough, ship out the shit, buy some great players and win the league next season with counter attacking football, like we used to. Restore some dignity and respect in him.

But that won't happen, so I think he should go. I've watched the same season happen for nearly 7 years and I've had enough. We all want the same outcome, we just don't all agree on how that should be achieved. Doesn't mean we should be attacking each other with childish, petty, dumbass point scoring though

[Xhaka Can’t]

I don't think anything will change with him. You can put money on the pattern our season will follow. The only thing unique about this season has been the exceptionally pathetic start.

We need to change almost everything we do, our transfer policy, wage structure, tactics, Manager, players, Board...etc.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I don't think anything will change with him. You can put money on the pattern our season will follow. The only thing unique about this season has been the exceptionally pathetic start.

We need to change almost everything we do, our transfer policy, wage structure, tactics, Manager, players, Board...etc.

Agree 100%.

The answer is clear, but it all seems so impossible to achieve it.

I only hope that kronke will come to the fore this summer, tell the board their time is up, then make some changes to turn the club around.

Best case scenario would see him invite usmanov to team up with him and pump some serious money into the team.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Agree 100%.

The answer is clear, but it all seems so impossible to achieve it.

I only hope that kronke will come to the fore this summer, tell the board their time is up, then make some changes to turn the club around.

Best case scenario would see him invite usmanov to team up with him and pump some serious money into the team.

Problem is unless he has 100% control he won't do anything, i think thats what he said sometime ago.

[Letters]

I don't think anything will change with him. You can put money on the pattern our season will follow. The only thing unique about this season has been the exceptionally pathetic start.

We need to change almost everything we do, our transfer policy, wage structure, tactics, Manager, players, Board...etc.

And this is why although I voted yes I'm not convinced that changing Wenger for another manager in and of itself will necessarily make things better. It may actually make things worse. The idea that things couldn't get worse is laughable. We are still 4th (it's a bloody miracle we are, says a lot about Chelsea and Liverpool and we're a RvP injury away from proper mid-table). But we are. There is far more room for further decline and a lot more at the club needs to change than just the manager. The point is now, and this is the reason I voted yes, we have far less to lose, we need to do something. I don't buy into this idea that Wenger is some bumbling idiot and anyone could come in and do better, but I don't think he's able to turn things around and it's worth a try. Whether anyone else can turn things around with the current board in charge is highly debatable.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

And this is why although I voted yes I'm not convinced that changing Wenger for another manager in and of itself will necessarily make things better. It may actually make things worse. The idea that things couldn't get worse is laughable. We are still 4th (it's a bloody miracle we are, says a lot about Chelsea and Liverpool and we're a RvP injury away from proper mid-table). But we are. There is far more room for further decline and a lot more at the club needs to change than just the manager. The point is now, and this is the reason I voted yes, we have far less to lose, we need to do something. I don't buy into this idea that Wenger is some bumbling idiot and anyone could come in and do better, but I don't think he's able to turn things around and it's worth a try. Whether anyone else can turn things around with the current board in charge is highly debatable.

Totally agree

[Grebbo]

I think people are over analysing.

It is very simple.

We have worse players now than before. That is why we are shit. Wenger is the same manager now as he was in 1998.

What made Wenger great was spotting talent, style of play and fitness. The trouble is that everyone has caught up. Teams like Wigan play good football and have a world wide scouting network.

Wenger's faults are the same now as they've always been. He has no tactics and isn't a motivator - just look at what those great teams we had did in Europe - nothing.

It is time for change as Wenger's qualities are no longer unique and his faults are badly damaging the team.

We need a motivator and a tactician. The scouting network, style of play and fitness (pah) isn't going to go when Wenger goes.

[Lord Nelson]

no

I know where you are coming from Ollie, you can see the pain in Arsene Wengers face when we lose! I actually feel sorry for our once great Manager! But he should go at the end of the season so he is not remembered for failure! Thanks for the great memories Arsene!

[Power n Glory]

And this is why although I voted yes I'm not convinced that changing Wenger for another manager in and of itself will necessarily make things better. It may actually make things worse. The idea that things couldn't get worse is laughable. We are still 4th (it's a bloody miracle we are, says a lot about Chelsea and Liverpool and we're a RvP injury away from proper mid-table). But we are. There is far more room for further decline and a lot more at the club needs to change than just the manager. The point is now, and this is the reason I voted yes, we have far less to lose, we need to do something. I don't buy into this idea that Wenger is some bumbling idiot and anyone could come in and do better, but I don't think he's able to turn things around and it's worth a try. Whether anyone else can turn things around with the current board in charge is highly debatable.

'Would you prefer to get one shot in the head or five to the chest and bleed to death' - Moneyball.

Under Wenger, we are bleeding to death. We keep going on like this and we will continue to haemorrhage quality players and the condition of the squad will continue to deteriorate. He should have gone ages ago and all those times where we've had these debates, people kept on saying one more season and this is what it has led to. We've lost too much and now down to the bare bones in quality. Two or three years ago, I'd say a new manager would have inherited a good squad, but not now. A change in management could have resulted in a season or two outside of the top four but once the new guy has made the squad his own and brought in a few players, we'd probably be back in the hunt. I can't imagine the Board allowing us to slip down the table if Wenger got the sack. If the top four is their standard then I'd imagine they'd work to maintain that standard. But if we drop out and we continue on like this then we're in trouble.

Our current squad is in serious trouble. We're going to lose a lot of players next season and whoever inherits this team has their work cut out for them. Dropping at of the top four now and losing more key players leaves us in tough position. We'd probably struggle to attract a top manager and top players. The Board should been paying attention. There at fault for not acting earlier and putting Wenger out of his misery. Instead, we're going through a very painful process and it's going to take a lot to recover from this.