And this is why although I voted yes I'm not convinced that changing Wenger for another manager in and of itself will necessarily make things better. It may actually make things worse. The idea that things couldn't get worse is laughable. We are still 4th (it's a bloody miracle we are, says a lot about Chelsea and Liverpool and we're a RvP injury away from proper mid-table). But we are. There is far more room for further decline and a lot more at the club needs to change than just the manager. The point is now, and this is the reason I voted yes, we have far less to lose, we need to do something. I don't buy into this idea that Wenger is some bumbling idiot and anyone could come in and do better, but I don't think he's able to turn things around and it's worth a try. Whether anyone else can turn things around with the current board in charge is highly debatable.