What's the point getting 4th place?

[Fist of Lehmann]

To be honest I really don’t understand a lot of the attitudes on this thread. I don’t know if some of it’s a knee-jerk reaction to last week’s humiliation or just people realising we probably won’t finish fourth and doing the classic “I didn’t want us to anyway!”

Personally I want to see us playing against the best teams in the world. Yeah, granted we’ve struggled when up against the top teams in recent seasons, but I’d still rather be playing these games than not. The 2-1 win against Barcelona at home last season was by far the best night we’ve had at the emirates. Why would people not want to see us playing in games like that again?

This whole “we’re never going to win it so why bother” attitude is quite frankly ridiculous. We’re not going to win the premier league anytime soon so does that mean we might as well get relegated to the championship!?

I can understand the idea that missing out on the champions league might be the catalyst in kicking the board/manger in to action. But personally I can’t see this board saying “oh shit, we’ve just lost out on a shit load of cash, let’s spend a shit load of cash then”! They’re gonna want to cover those losses from somewhere and the transfer pot seems the most likely place.

And as Grebbo says above, sp*rs playing the champions league and us dicking about on channel 5 on a Thursday would be utter utter shite!

Yep. Agree with most of that.

Until we know what PHW's austerity measures are going to be, we won't know the full implication of losing the 4th place trophy. Ticket increases, squad cuts. Those are the worst case scenarios.

Maybe everyone from the board down will take a pay cut, as an apology.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/...premier-league

To win that trophy

What an idiot our manager truly is

[Alpha]

Whenever we've faced a decent side in the Champions League recently, we've gone out. Yes, we can make it out of the group phase comfortably, because the quality of opposition is so mediocre, but you know we'll struggle to get beyond the Quarter Finals these days. Yet Wenger acts as if qualification for this tournament is the holy grail. But what's the point if you're not even competing with the best teams in this tournament, and simply making up the numbers? Sure, smaller teams may just be happy to participate in the UCL, but we're meant to be a big club, and our move to the Emirates was supposed to facilitate our ascent to the top table of European football and become part of the elite. Instead, we've regressed so far that we are simply satisfied to qualify for the tournament, and pick up the money which is all the board and Wenger care about.

I don't give a shit about 4th place anymore, give me 5th/6th and an FA Cup win any day. The Arsenal Economists may think I'm talking bollocks, but I'm a fan at the end of the day, not an accountant worried about the financial costs and benefits of winning the FA Cup compared to qualifying for the UCL.

Fourth spot is pointless when you are in a better position . But unfortunately that's what we had to play for this season . We were so comfortable in that position in the past years that we even took it for granted as a divine right .But things have changed , teams have improved and sadly we haven't . The point of securing the fourth place is the money involved and attract decent players . No good player will move to a team with no garantie of champions's league . Unfortunately that's where we are heading to unless our captain ( Arsene Wenger) and his crew ( sorry Arsenal ) turn their bar starboard .Otherwise the ship will sink to no fourth place , no champions league , no big players , the few decent ones we have leaving . Imagine that disaster . More than Armaguedon I think .

[Coney]

tbf, getting knocked out of the CL in this round, and the FA cup in this round - still better than both manu and Citeh.

This manu guy at work got caught twice on this in a week. He made a comment about the Milan game - I asked him how manu got in their Cl game, then "Oh yeah - you weren't even in it". Same again today - "2-0" he said. How did your game go, I asked - "Oh yeah - you didn't make it to this round".

[Olivier's xmas twist]

tbf, getting knocked out of the CL in this round, and the FA cup in this round - still better than both manu and Citeh.

This manu guy at work got caught twice on this in a week. He made a comment about the Milan game - I asked him how manu got in their Cl game, then "Oh yeah - you weren't even in it". Same again today - "2-0" he said. How did your game go, I asked - "Oh yeah - you didn't make it to this round".

Maxpeck
Manc fan

[Marc Overmars]

tbf, getting knocked out of the CL in this round, and the FA cup in this round - still better than both manu and Citeh.

This manu guy at work got caught twice on this in a week. He made a comment about the Milan game - I asked him how manu got in their Cl game, then "Oh yeah - you weren't even in it". Same again today - "2-0" he said. How did your game go, I asked - "Oh yeah - you didn't make it to this round".

Those are some pretty lame bragging rights.

[Cripps_orig]

Being an Arsenal fan, you take what you can get these days.

Manc should have just said 8-2 or 2-1 and Coney would have STFU and GTFO tbh

Thankfully he didnt so Manc

[Syn]

Some spud was trying to take the piss this morning saying "that's 6 goals without reply in the last 2 games. Soon to be 10". I didn't reply to him on the spot but just calmly sent an e-mail saying "at least I wasn't adopted". Showed him. Ahh, banter.

[Globalgunner]

All it tells us is where the mentality of this club and the manager is right now. Can you imagine Wenger telling Vieira, Keown, Campbell and mad Jehns that 4th was a trophy and this was the target for the year.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wow, we used to call the Spuds hysterical.