What's the point getting 4th place?

[LDG]

Wow, we used to call the Spuds hysterical.

Tbf, I'm happy to concede to most spuddy that they're the better team. Let them have their fun. We've had plenty over the last 15 years.

Won't be long before it's back the other way again.

A brief foray out of the shadow, if you will.

[Syn]

Tbf, I'm happy to concede to most spuddy that they're the better team. Let them have their fun. We've had plenty over the last 15 years.Won't be long before it's back the other way again.A brief foray out of the shadow, if you will.

Shouldn't be happy to concede just yet. A long way to go. 36 points to play for to make up a 7 point gap after Sunday. I think we are shit. But I also think that making up that difference is do-able.

[fakeyank]

Shouldn't be happy to concede just yet. A long way to go. 36 points to play for to make up a 13 point gap after Sunday. I think we are shit. But I also think that making up that difference is do-able.

Just corrected your little mistake

[LDG]

Shouldn't be happy to concede just yet. A long way to go. 36 points to play for to make up a 7 point gap after Sunday. I think we are shit. But I also think that making up that difference is do-able.

Ever the optimist me

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Ever the optimist me

Nah thats Ollie

[LDG]

Nah thats Ollie

rofl

[Gubby Allen]

Personally I want to see us playing against the best teams in the world. Yeah, granted we’ve struggled when up against the top teams in recent seasons, but I’d still rather be playing these games than not. The 2-1 win against Barcelona at home last season was by far the best night we’ve had at the emirates. Why would people not want to see us playing in games like that again?

But we rarely do. This is as much a point about the Champions League, as Arsenal in the Champions League. You ponce about with the most mind numbingly dull group games against one of Sparta or Slavia Prague, Locomotiv Plovdiv & the glamour tie against the champions of Belgium or Portugal. It won't become remotely interesting until the 2nd leg of the quarter final, once the crap have been shat out of it. Until that point, I'm not sure a C.L game would make my top 45 eagerly anticipated Arsenal matches a season.

As great as that Barca 2-1 game was, it was effecitvely going in at half-time 2-1 up. No different to battering Newcastle and going in 4-0 up.

Sure we've enjoyed some belting games in it in the past, the Milan, Madrid wins will live forever, but you can't be enjoying this at the moment. In our last two knock-out games in the tournament itself, it's not an exaggeration to say that we have barely got out of our half and looked completely out of our depth with no sign of it changing.

We have such an enormous squad - over 50 players who've made a first team appearance, I'm not sure us finishing 6th or 7th would improve us but a season in the Europa League for Coquelin, Myachi, Frimpong, Jenkinson, Lansbury, Vela, Aneke - who otherwise, would not get a minute and would be shipped out on loan, might be beneficial in the long term.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

But we rarely do. This is as much a point about the Champions League, as Arsenal in the Champions League. You ponce about with the most mind numbingly dull group games against one of Sparta or Slavia Prague, Locomotiv Plovdiv & the glamour tie against the champions of Belgium or Portugal. It won't become remotely interesting until the 2nd leg of the quarter final, once the crap have been shat out of it. Until that point, I'm not sure a C.L game would make my top 45 eagerly anticipated Arsenal matches a season.

As great as that Barca 2-1 game was, it was effecitvely going in at half-time 2-1 up. No different to battering Newcastle and going in 4-0 up.

Sure we've enjoyed some belting games in it in the past, the Milan, Madrid wins will live forever, but you can't be enjoying this at the moment. In our last two knock-out games in the tournament itself, it's not an exaggeration to say that we have barely got out of our half and looked completely out of our depth with no sign of it changing.

We have such an enormous squad - over 50 players who've made a first team appearance, I'm not sure us finishing 6th or 7th would improve us but a season in the Europa League for Coquelin, Myachi, Frimpong, Jenkinson, Lansbury, Vela, Aneke - who otherwise, would not get a minute and would be shipped out on loan, might be beneficial in the long term.

With the CL to win it you need a good sqaud but also a bit of luck along the way, if we got an easy draw there is nout to say we can't win it. We may have a better chance of winning the Europa league. Bit we don't have a right to just turn up and think we can win that, because there are some good teams when it comes down to the serious end of business.

Every club wants to be in the CL whether they win it or not.

[Marc Overmars]

There aren't many easy draws once the knockouts kick in. You might be able to get away with a 2nd round pub team (although we weren't afforded such luck this year), but after that you're bound to run into a string of top teams en route to the final. What's evident is that we always fail once we need to step it up a gear. Milan in 2008 is the only tie we've risen to the occasion for since 2006. Otherwise we always lose the big ones. Liverpool, United, Barca, likely to be Milan this year. Our wins over 2 legs have come against Roma, Villarreal and Porto...that's our level really. Wenger has never really cracked this competition and I suspect he never will. Course I would absolutley splaff my pants if we ever won the CL, but I just find it demoralising knowing our limits and having no belief the team can compete on this stage.

[Özim]

We don't have a cat in hells chance of winning the CL, not even through luck because we don't have an efficient and well drilled team, we know we don't have the talent but to be able to knockout superior teams you need discipline, good tactics, work rate, desire and a never say die atttitude we have none of those.

I hate the CL it's a waste of time and a bore and watching us getting outclassed every season once we get to the knockout stages is not fun, qualifying for it also maintains this pipedream that we can win it (particularly in Wenger's head).