Wenger Out?

[Dog Toffee]

ok numbnuts

if both the captain and manager leave at the same time, then we would start the season similar to this and be more than unlikely to turn it around.

if RVP leaves, we can replace but we need the stability of management for at least another season and not a whole draft of players leaving with him.


if the manager leaves then retaining RVP would encourage the players to stay too.

are you related to that other tard joker by chance?

You said if RvP stays then Wenger should go, why?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Well of course not. You can see he wants to win.

But there is a difference between his / Ivan's approach with the media, and other clubs. Do you think for one second SAF would come out and say of his team, that "it's ok, fourth is like a trophy"?? Not a chance. He would just say, "Not good enough" with purple all over his nose.

Yeah i agree, I hate that stuff with a passion, when he or Ivan or PHW come out and say this nonsense. And agree if were challenging it should be said, but were not. I don't recall AW saying this When we was challenging for titles or with the invincible's. It seems since he says it once we go out of trophy's and were challeging for nothing to make his players feel ok, thats how i see it.

[GP]

You said if RvP stays then Wenger should go, why?

Cos wengers a useless old ****!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He is still out injured because our club tried to rush him back and he sustained a second stress fracture.

Fair play. Im sure he'll be back stronger though.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He should still go because despite our good recent form, all we're fighting for at the tail end of the season is qualification for the Champions League. In fact in previous seasons we still just about in the title race around this time (although it was inevitable that we were going to collapse) so if anything we've regressed this season. We are a club that won 5 trophies in a 4 year period from 2001-2005, and now we've had no successes for 7 years. A few good results doesn't hide that fact.

The biggest problem with Wenger is his mentality. He's no longer interested in the Carling Cup and the FA Cup, because financially they can't compare to qualifying for the Champions League, which is the height of the club's ambition these days. This is not good enough, I want to see an ambitious manager in charge who will at least try to win trophies, even if we fail.

Thats rubbish, they may not be top of his list but he still love to win them if not he'd have sent a shite team out in the CC final last season. Whether he is good enough to motivate his team to win them is a different matter tbf.

[fakeyank]

He definitely should leave. AW has this amazing smoke screen every season... he depresses the fuck out of us and then wins a couple of games. We fans get cheated thinking we literally won the lottery when in reality, we are still where we are and sometimes worse!

There is no doubt he needs to leave.. sure addition of 3-4 players in summer would bolster this squad but we have been saying this shit for the last 5-6 years and we know it aint happening this year either.

Time for a new manager to step in and take the club onwards and upwards!

[Letters]

A couple

Behave.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He definitely should leave. AW has this amazing smoke screen every season... he depresses the fuck out of us and then wins a couple of games. We fans get cheated thinking we literally won the lottery when in reality, we are still where we are and sometimes worse!

There is no doubt he needs to leave.. sure addition of 3-4 players in summer would bolster this squad but we have been saying this shit for the last 5-6 years and we know it aint happening this year either.

Time for a new manager to step in and take the club onwards and upwards!

Like AVB did for the chavs ? depends if its a decent manager or a pub team one tbh.

[Dog Toffee]

He definitely should leave. AW has this amazing smoke screen every season... he depresses the fuck out of us and then wins a couple of games. We fans get cheated thinking we literally won the lottery when in reality, we are still where we are and sometimes worse!

There is no doubt he needs to leave.. sure addition of 3-4 players in summer would bolster this squad but we have been saying this shit for the last 5-6 years and we know it aint happening this year either.

Time for a new manager to step in and take the club onwards and upwards!

Worst post of the year.

[fakeyank]

It's been a terrible season if you're a glory hunter who is only interested in trophies. But if you're interested in the journey of a season, the ups and downs that necessarily go with being a football fan, then this has been quite an interesting one. It's had some awful moments (Old Trafford etc) but some brilliant ones too (Chelsea away, the run we're on at the moment). If you don't have any downs then you can't appreciate the ups.

Of course trophies are what a club at our level should be aspiring to and the fact it's been so long is certainly a failing on Wenger's part, one which he should have been sacked for. But right now we're showing a lot more fight and a top 4 finish is looking probable which defies most of our expectations for much of this season. If we do the right things this summer (big if of course but the Podolski rumours are encouraging and if true give some indication we're looking to do things right this year and not scrabble around on deadline day) then we could push on next year.

As for making up the numbers in the CL, again it's not all about whether we win it or not. The AC Milan game at home was fantastic. We didn't do enough to go through but no-one could sensibly fault their efforts on the night or feel anything but pride at the way we fought. It was one of best atmospheres I've been in at the Emirates and night like that are worth being in the competition whether we progress or not.

I think right now I want him to stay as I see signs of hope but there have been too many false dawns before so I'm not certain about it. It's certainly not true that any idiot could come in and we'd suddenly be sweeping all before us again, if we do replace Wenger we'd have to be very careful in who we bring in.

Right now is what 5 games? I am judging him on years of total ignorance of what needed to be done. We had a 'right now' moment right after getting bolloxed at OT and we looked good. Like PnG says, this happens every season and we are out of reckoning come March. I remember in our shambolic 08/09 season, we had a 16-17 game unbeaten run with draws all over the place but where did it take us? Its high time he leaves.. we need a winner as a manager, not someone who champions 4th place as a CL trophy.