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3rd actually lol. But your right, we should be challenging for trophies that much is real and that is what we'd all like to see. But nothing is going to change between now and summer(as in Aw won't go) so only choice fans have is to support this club for the rest of the season. If we fail to get 4th then fine Wenger out even if we get 4th the board have to think hard if they feel he is the right man and the direction of the club.
If they stick with him and he changes his ways ill back him to the hill as our manager.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
Like you say history will tell us he won't no problem with that, just found it odd you seemed upset that we was on this run, because it may make wenger feel like he has a team etc.
Ill be happy to see this run go on, not because i think AW is going to change and spend lots not because it will bring us success but its because its the team i love and even though the pressure is off its good to see the fight. This lot could have gave in and went on holidays but they never and for that i'm proud of the effort.
Once the season is over we can only hope the board and AW see light, whether it be him deciding to leave/them sacking him or the club changing its attitude. What ever happend as long as its right for the team id back it even if it mean we got Jose.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
Isnt it interesting that these last few wins come after we have been knocked out of every competition? Now some are saying: there is something different about this team, the mentality is different, there is more steel etc...No there isnt lol. The pressure is off for the most part, yes we have 3rd/4th to play for but thats what we play for EVERY season. We have imploded at pretty much every opportunity we have had. This season is not different from any other season other than the fact that we have one RVP who has been scoring for fun. Wenger has changed hardly anything and we are no better than we have been in past seasons. So why should he stay? **awaits someone to mention point totals from past seasons**
If you want him to stay for reasons other than what goes on, on the pitch than I would like to be enlightened as to what he offers in this respect. Wenger has signed lots of mediocre players, let the quality ones go for cheap and have signed lots of awful contracts of late. He also has a pop at the fans when ever any of his decisions gets questioned and could care less about what hardworking people who put lots of money into the club think. For me hes turned into a massive wanker in the present. I will never forget what he has done at Arsenal and he will always be a legend but presently hes waaaaaayyyy past it.
Id love to have someone like Moyes here. The guy spends very littlle and still gets the best out of his players. I could only imagine what he would do with more resources, I reckon he could do a better job than Wenger does on the pitch these days, easily.
I feel very proud to be be an Arsenal fan when the media discuss long-standing managers and Wenger is there, a comfortable second, behind Ferguson. For the best part of 16 years, he has been successful (albeit RELATIVELY successful in more recent years to big-spending clubs in the league), he has hauled Arsenal into a brand, spanking new f***-off stadium and he has had to deal with an incredibly xenophobic, hounding press.
All this being said, it seems absurd to want to kick him to the kerb, to sack him with nothing, especially based on recent performances and particularly if he can guarantee Champions League football in the very same close season that he was given his P45 (something that other club managers ?Dalglish? would be lauded for)
I'd hope (and this is a far cry from what I was thinking in August and January) that in an ideal world, Wenger would be privy (OK, I don't even know what that means) to picking his own successor and that we could be patient with a new man at the helm. I'd also like to think that a new guy would be as passionate about the club as Wenger is. Whether we're on a bad run or a good'un, it's clear as day that AW has the very best interests of the club at heart.
Formerly TMOKJ