Yes
No
Oh behave yourself. Endure?
I've been going to games since about 1990 and I remember far worse seasons that this one - seasons where we've ended up winning a trophy but have been absolutely awful for most of the league campaign and it's been the most boring football imaginable. And I'm not old enough (well, I am, but I didn't take much interest) to remember the Don Howe era.
To be honest if ever there has been a manager who lives off reputation alone, it has to be Arsene Wenger. When we looked a serious doubt for the top 4, I still even read and heard pundits saying we'd be stupid to get rid of him and only he can make us great again etc. There seems to be this mythical aura around him, he is not talked about in the same vein as other managers who can be instantly fighting for their jobs at the first sign of bad form (ie. AVB).
People say no one is bigger than the club but the problem for us is that whether we like it or not, Wenger actually is. It's why some of us can't help but cling on by annually repeating the 'one more year' line. It's like we're stuck in a loveless marriage.
My issues don't stem from the lack of trophies alone, although we probably should have picked up a cup or 2 in recent years, but it's from the belief that when his teams get within touching distance of success or greatness, I'd bet my bottom dollar they won't pull through.
Do you think it's easy to keep a club in the top 4 then? How much money have Chelsea spent and they're struggling this year. To do it so consistently as Wenger has shouldn't be dismissed. Yes, we've crumbled when in touching distance of trophies far too often but I do see some sign that this lot have a bit more fight about them right now. But I thought that around about Christmas time when we'd pulled ourselves into the top 4 and then we slumped again so we'll see.
He deserves full credit for keeping us in the top 4, we as fans need to decide whether we are happy with that being the height of our achievement. Yes that might be the remit of the board, but they're not the ones on the pitch who have consistently let the club down when they're tasked with competing for honours. Again, the trophies alone don't bother me as such, it's the fact that I feel we're unlikely to win one with Wenger again, and ultimatley for a club of our stature, resources, and hell, even playing ability as the last 4 games have shown, can't be good enough surely.
Funny you say that until last season, i have been hearing fans going on about how we play the best football etc, The fans were not bothered We never won the CC or FA cup as they were "mickey mouse cups and clubs like Spurs and villa should win them". Fans were happy for us to be Barca light when it suited them. had we still be playing that good football this season i doubt most would be this upset.
So rival fans tease you, who gives a monkeys at the end of the day, that's why they are rival fans.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.
"I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
"Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.