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    I'm not sure he needs to, given he shits on most teams in the Champions League. In any case, the wish of wanting him to play elsewhere is really only for our benefit, not his.

    In a practical sense, he'd only ever leave on a free transfer and Barca would never let it come to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I'm not sure he needs to, given he shits on most teams in the Champions League. In any case, the wish of wanting him to play elsewhere is really only for our benefit, not his.

    In a practical sense, he'd only ever leave on a free transfer and Barca would never let it come to that.
    He still plays for Barca in the Champions League. And of course it would not be in his best interests to leave Barcelona. At the moment it looks about as likely as seeing Bradman play today. But from a neutral football fan's point of view, I think it would be very interesting to see him in a non-Barca system. I don't suggest that he can't perform incredibly well in another country for a team that doesn't play the Barca way - but he may have to adapt or get out of his comfort zone.

    At this rate, the closest we'll see to a different Messi is, maybe, 8 years down the line when his pace/agility goes and he might change to a more playmaker type of role relying on his vision more than a burst of pace/trickery. At the moment, it genuinely seems too easy for him. I guess the closest we see him challenged is when he plays for Argentina.

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    What a ridiculous player.

    He will probably score more goals this season than most run of the mill strikers manage in their careers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    He still plays for Barca in the Champions League. And of course it would not be in his best interests to leave Barcelona. At the moment it looks about as likely as seeing Bradman play today. But from a neutral football fan's point of view, I think it would be very interesting to see him in a non-Barca system. I don't suggest that he can't perform incredibly well in another country for a team that doesn't play the Barca way - but he may have to adapt or get out of his comfort zone.

    At this rate, the closest we'll see to a different Messi is, maybe, 8 years down the line when his pace/agility goes and he might change to a more playmaker type of role relying on his vision more than a burst of pace/trickery. At the moment, it genuinely seems too easy for him. I guess the closest we see him challenged is when he plays for Argentina.
    Yes he plays for Barca but that's rather glossing over the individual performances, in the most quality filled tournament there is to play in. It's a silly situation if we've to come it where playing well is effectively held against him. Yes Xavi and Iniesta have and will be a big part of this side being so good but Messi is what makes them go stratospheric.

    It wouldn't be hugely interesting to see him in a non-Barca system. I don't say that glibly because there would be more exposure of him over here of course but ultimately any manager who has him from now on is going to cater to the team towards him and of course with being able to buy players that is achieved more readily than internationally. However, my point is, his back-up would not be as good as what he has at Barcelona but any coach would do their damndest to get the very most out of him and so where does that leave the debate? Would he then end up being in a comfort zone elsewhere?

    The signs are there that he is starting to perform more consistently for Argentina (winners against Brazil, Switzerland, hat-trick against Venzeuela). I would say though, for Argentina, in the past, he has had to be 'Xavi' whilst at the same time trying to play like he normally does. Argentina probably have the best strikeforce of any team, club level or internationally but they don't have a 'dictating' midfielder, unless Pastore can man up I guess.

    I guess we're only asking these questions of him because he is obviously is so good but to me, it's rather taking out the enjoyment of watching him play. Wherever that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    What a ridiculous player.

    He will probably score more goals this season than most run of the mill strikers manage in their careers.
    Most strikers would be over the moon with 54 goals over two seasons. He has scored 107 in not even two seasons.

    Also,

    Still my favourite goal of his.

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    Can he do what Heskey does though?

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    Can anyone?

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    There is a reason why Heskey is regarded as the best defending attacker of all time

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    While the situation in the Middle East is clearly no laughing matter, Al Dunya TV have left internet users gobsmacked following an outrageous report that Barcelona helped anti-president Bashar Assad radicals plot arms smuggling routes through the country. Using an El Clasico clip from last December, a video report on Sunday claimed Barcelona’s formation plots specific locations on a map, with the players representing the smugglers and the ball’s position signifying the current location of weapons.
    The report concludes Messi's final passes to set up Pedro’s goal against Real Madrid indicates the successful handover of the arsenal to the rebels in Dir al-Zur.
    Hard to believe? Watch the 'evidence' for yourself and see what you think...




    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddball...#ixzz1phoIiEtE
    Video on the link

    Despicable club they are. Can see this being true

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    Marketing.

    Five of them and they can't get near him. Granted he was gun-running but that wouldn't ordinarily put Pepe off from giving someone a good seeing to.

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