Anyone happy to finish outside top 4, if it brings about real change?

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

This whole pro-wenger or pessimist thing is just +1 fodder for the faceless WUMs that we really are.

In real life if I'm talking to someone about Arsenal and they hold a different view to me, I don't bait them or try and mock their opinion. On here we're all guilty of poking fun at each other in an effort to, err, I dunno, win the internet?

When we do well Letters people feel the need to open their match reaction posts laughing at those who doubted the team. When we fuck up Zim people come out of the woodwork and try to say I told you so.

Another top post mate and if you don't mind I'll extrapolate it to the "Good" v "Evil" theme, which i think is what has really always played out on here and how some posters justify their "acceptable" animosity to certain posters views.

For one second lets imagine both parties now get what they now claim they all want- AW moves upstairs and a manager touted by the anti brigade gets appointed. Let's say he starts off well, the Zimmites become the "I told you so" good guys and the Letterites try not to react to the provacation and generally be happy. But then after a great start things start going wrong for the new manager and the club in general, which camp would you think would be likely to soliloquise about the good old days under AW and how we may have been to hasty to push him upstairs (effectively undermining the new manager and the club)? Role reversal I hear

It's funny and as you pointed out totally ridiculous as even though we all claim to be saying the same thing ATM this msg board is still totally fractured- I just hope it stays on the internet and doesn't pour out to the stands one day. Again MO, a great sensiblle post.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

And back on Topic- I really don't care whether we are in the CL or not, in fact I believe I'm begining to detest the competition.

For example I derived no joy when we outlasted the mancs in it or even earlier when we made it through the qualifiers. The last time I really looked forward to a season of European football was the year after our Barca final mainly because I felt we were robbed and was looking forward to a real chance of us righting the wrong and winning it. Once Henry left at the end of that season and with Wengers philosophy on overdrive then, I knew we stood no chance of ever being crowned Kings of Europe and ending the 50 something year wait. Something prolly died in me ATM.

So really, there is little difference to me in finishing 2nd or 14th under this manager- all I take for granted is we be above relegation and above the spuds.

If finishing 14th will bring a new dawn, then I'm all for it, as this merry-go-round is getting truly nauseating.

[Power n Glory]

Another top post mate and if you don't mind I'll extrapolate it to the "Good" v "Evil" theme, which i think is what has really always played out on here and how some posters justify their "acceptable" animosity to certain posters views.

For one second lets imagine both parties now get what they now claim they all want- AW moves upstairs and a manager touted by the anti brigade gets appointed. Let's say he starts off well, the Zimmites become the "I told you so" good guys and the Letterites try not to react to the provacation and generally be happy. But then after a great start things start going wrong for the new manager and the club in general, which camp would you think would be likely to soliloquise about the good old days under AW and how we may have been to hasty to push him upstairs (effectively undermining the new manager and the club)? Role reversal I hear

It's funny and as you pointed out totally ridiculous as even though we all claim to be saying the same thing ATM this msg board is still totally fractured- I just hope it stays on the internet and doesn't pour out to the stands one day. Again MO, a great sensiblle post.

Good posts but it's gone beyond that. Joker posts up a legitimate question to spark a debate and then Terry and Coney jump straight in with insults and aggression. I'm pretty gobsmacked because it isn't neccessary and nothing offensive prior to that was posted. We've had simailar threads before and hasn't sparked such reactions. It's getting to the point where certain posters views are being instantly dismissed even if they make a valid point.

[Kano]

i'm sure we can all stop the crying for a minute, sip down some good ole man up juice and get on with typing meaningless fodder on an internet forum where no real person can ever really be hurt

can they?

[Cripps_orig]

i'm sure we can all stop the crying for a minute, sip down some good ole man up juice and get on with typing meaningless fodder on an internet forum where no real person can ever really be hurt

can they?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-suicide.html

[Kano]

yeah but facebook is for losers. doesn't count

[GP]

Anyone who allows themselves to be bullied on the internet deserves to die anyway.

[Letters]

Letterites

I always wanted to start a religion.

Me

[GP]

The Leader!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Letterites

I always wanted to start a religion.

Me

I'd have called them Letterheads, personally.