Well years of the same thing happening would allow you to hazard a pretty good guess. Trouble is with Wenger people say the same thing every season, wait till wait till the end of August, wait till Xmas, wait till the end of January, wait till the end of the season.....then it all starts again.
Nothing ever changes and nothing ever will, we're well schooled in the art of negotiating at Arsenal.
would quite like us to go out and spend 50 million on a name, see him flop and then listen to zimm etc moan about how wenger should have watched him first, and how he wasted all that money etc etc
I think guess is the key word there.
I see lots of people on this thread expressing frustration but I've not seen anyone yet say who it is we were after and have failed to get or what the problem with wages or fee was (as Elche claims, but doesn't back up).
If y'all want to get frustrated about things when you've no idea what's going on then go nuts. I'll wait till the end of the transfer window and see what's happened then. Or at least until I've heard some far more solid statements about who we may be after.
The WBA guy Obdemwinge...has said that not only Arsenal have bid but he didn't like the wage offer. Sources today and two local TV guys in the Midlands have discovered the price offered was 4 million, this came from a WBA Director. Matt Lawson of the Express has now talked to the player who said to him yesterday that the wages could be OK but Arsenal and WBA cant agree a fee.
All this info from many sources of varying levels, is just too much to ignore...this is the type of info around on Samba and Gervinho...there is not this info for example on Cahill therefore I don't know what is true or not.
We cannot stick our heads in the sand and not believe the difficulties because the info is from too many varying sources...the evidence comes from the fact that other transfers have been proved correct by this method.
Outside of GW there are a lot of well informed people. I'm linked on Twitter to Gooners and other fans that through inside information or dialog with more trusted Pundits or Journo...that have got it right on so many breaking stories this summer regarding transfer activity.
In fact it's quite incredible the information you get as opposed for waiting for Sky or reading the Sun.
So my info comes from people in the know, that have been correct about many things this summer.
Add the experience factor...and hey presto Rocket Science is not needed. The way we get information has changed forever, the information ismore fluid, more reliable and just faster now.
So you can be sceptical...no problem. But using the different mediums available, and learning who to trust...we can paint a pretty clear picture of whats happening.
Clichy.
We all seem to agree that he's leaving...we all know Liverpool are a possibility but want him cheap, Roma could offer more. But the story that broke about PSG offering 10 million that we see today was fluid on line for 4 days. The story comes from different sources of different credibilities.
So because of my conversations, dealings and understanding. I am sure this is true.
From how I tune into to the information.
Samba, Gervinho and Obdenwinge are real negociations.
Cahill is a rumour as is Jagielka at present.
Clichy has 3 firm bids from Liverpool, Roma and PSG.
Bendtner has no firm bids.
Cesc and Nasri as what we all know.
Other than that the rest is quiet
And this would confirm what we all know deep down about where we are as a club. A second tier club with second tier transfer aspirations. This is not a criticism, its reality. With some experience brought in, it may be that the manager can rediscover his alchemy and win a trophy next season - but it has been proven empirically that investment correlates directly to success. And if we are unable to invest to match the competition, then the result is most likely to be failure as regards trophies.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter