Shit enough to have been on the brink of not "comfortably" qualifying for a CL place.Originally Posted by Darth Vela
Read my entire post again! And, whilst reading it consider how Abrahmovich and Man City screwed up football economics so much so even Birmingham could win a trophy!
Last edited by budesonide; 23-06-2011 at 11:25 AM.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
Well, my comments weren't really relating to the rest of the post, just the first part that mentioned that Wenger was doing his thang way before City came along, which he was and part of the reason that didn't work was due to Chelsea.
In terms of the rest, it's very misleading to point to individual incidents like the CC final and say 'that could have been prevented by xyz' when the fact is the reason top players are top players is due to their consistency, the top players going into their peak cost a lot of money and, I think you know where I'm going with this, we can't afford to fill our team with them. I think there should be a balance between experience and youth, attitude and ability, the balance was wrong and that is down to Wenger so essentially I agree with you on that point, there's just a few things around it I don't agree with.
Incidentally, I think we could afford 25m for a Torres (Benzema?) now but back then? No chance.
Fair dos.
However, there is nothing misleading about using those examples to make a point IF it is to counter a fallacy that Chelsea and City's millions have handicapped a club of our stature so much so we avoid strengthening the squad as necessary. That is also down entirely to wenger. He'd rather reward his project youths handsomely with the money.
As it is, we are now looking to flog them off for as much as we can weasle out of the clubs dumb enough to buy these failed youth projects. But that is the market today -- it is a seller's market; weren't we asking for 50mil for cesc? What is the moral high-ground here?
Anyway, we needn't fill the whole squad with 25mil players -- that is unnecessary and irrelevant.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
Yeah, I personally think we do need several +20 mill players in the squad to get the strength in depth, quality and experience necessary to win the league or CL. I don't think I'm alone in this either (far from it if ex players and people from the club are to believed)
If you don't get how price and wage inflation has degraded the quality of our signings over the last 6 Years then your a moron tbh. And No, focusing on individuals or single results as proof big money doesn't make a difference is equally moronic.
Equally, ignoring:
1). proof that you don't need to spend 'BIG' money to avoid collapsing season on season in the same fashion is an incomprehensible self-serving idiocy.
2). proof that you could spend 'BIG' money (the kind no one is referring to here on GW except those who farcically make it a convenient strawman in their argument) and end up with nothing is embarrasingly dumb.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
What the fick are you taking about?
The quality and depth of quality in the squad was not as good as we believed it to be. The quality of the squad has been in decline, and ON AVERAGE obtaining that quality has become more expensive.
No, the quality was not what YOU AND THE DELUSIONAL WENGER believed it to be. Wenger said it was his best squad EVER!
and petrol prices have ON AVERAGE been on the rise -- but I fuc*king get myself to work one way or the other (ADAPT) without bankrupting myself! And I make sure I get there on time -- otherwise you get sacked for repeated lateness. Hence the means of adapting has to be PRACTICAL BUT AT THE SAME TIME WITHIN THE REALMS OF THE REAL WORLD.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
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