No
Dominic Toretto is
No
Dominic Toretto is
I'm gooner, I like to see the team do well, so I'll give him some credit for at least turning things around a bit (St. Totteringhams Day looks to be on again), but not too much credit because we really shouldn't be in this situation in the 1st place, like a dog scrapping around the table for scraps. We should be sitting at the table like the 2 Manchester clubs, and no, it doesn't take that level of investment to get there, just some shrewd signings and general good management on the pitch, and a more pro-active board.Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Wenger proves that he has more than nine lives, can pull a number of rabbits out of his hat and seems to have an endless supply of get out of jail cards! for that I applaud him.
This was the first year that I heard myself say that I believed we may be better cutting our ties, there have been number of situations in which only the most blind would not be asking 'What the fuck is going on?' - However there have also been a couple of decent runs that only the blind would not be saying 'Hey, we're not that bad and that there is a better sense of balance and camaraderie about this team then there has been for a very long time, even though we supposedly lost our best players!'
We are third, we have created a gap between us and the team that was meant to be shitting all over us in terms of quality of football played and squad playing it - to be honest the only thing Spurs are better than us at doing is spunking their money. Us losing Cesc and Nasbo and them beating off the wolves and keeping Nasri's gay lover Modric was the sign of shifting winds. Well the wind is blowing back in our favour so sit and weep, you classless fools. That goes for Citeh too, if we had 10 more games rather than 6 then I would say second was not out of reach! who knows it may be enough!!!!
The upside is that there are signs that Wumger is thinking about (said we held breath) playing the transfer market slightly differently. I know, it is only Podolski that is being positively mentioned, but that is a step in the right direction. I pray that we do not hear 'the squad is good enough' or that 'we are waiting for players to come back' - the squad is not deep/strong enough, we do need more talent and the players already out injured or on loan, for the majority would do best to stay away. Dont want Nic, Vela, Denilson, Almunia and the like to darken our door again.
I have said and Letteres said earlier that any manager taking over from AW would not produce miracles in a flash, it would take time and some pain, that could be said for SAF too (although he is the best by a country mile) - however the time will come, maybe not early enough for the haters, cos I reckon AW is going to be around for another season but it will come. Who comes in would be wise to ask Wenger to leave that rabbit filled hat.......just in case
Wenger is not the best manager in the league, and won't be even if we finish 3rd. Tactically he has been extremely mediocre this seasson, and has regularly been outthought by managers in mid table and scrapping for relegation. Remember how MON set up Sunderland perfectly to beat us in the FA Cup? What was Wenger's strategy in response to that? Absolutely nothing, we tried the same thing over and over again and were dealt with comfortably.
If we look back over the last few seasons, there have been so many occasions when Wenger has played players out of position to the detriment of the team. I think of playing Bendtner on the right wing, Ramsey on the left in recent weeks, persisting with Denilson even though our midfield looked shorn of creativity, believing for some reason that Eboue could do a job in midfield, the list goes on. No top quality manager would haae continued to make these mistakes for so long. Fergie does commit mistakes, as does everyone, but what separates him from the rest is that he acts quickly to rectify it. Wenger, on the other hand, only "gets it" when it's too late.
Some people will say, "we shouldn't blame Wenger, it's the players' fault". But it is Wenger would bought the players in the first place, and if players like Squillaci, Park, Eboue, Denilson, Diaby, Almunia, Bischoff, etc are not good enough, then Wenger has to take a lot of the blame for failing to assesmble a squad of enough quality that can endure a whole season without collapsing at the end. This has been our achilles' heel for over 5 years, but Wenger has failed to rectify it. If you want to take of "Mental Strength", again, the buck stops with the manager. He has mainfestly failed to bring in enough experienced professionals who know the score and can be relied on in a crisis to help steer the team through stormy waters. This is why we have ultimately failed to win a tophry since 2005. Our last success was in the FA Cup, when we still had winners like Henry, Vieira, Edu, Bergkamp, Lauren, Lehmann etc playing. These were good/great players that Wenger signed, who could be relid on. However, since 2005, Wenger has abandoned looking at reality and persisted with his youth project, despite it failing to take us onto the next level. The fact that he didn't ditch the project until perhaps last summer is an idnictment of his managerial judgement.
i swear some people on here are just blinding ignoring any changes this season and hoping to god that nothing good happens in the summer just so they can come on here and go look we were right, wenger is a **** etc etc.
no surprise zimm has been quiet these last few weeks
no not at all.
but at the same time we aren't gullible enough to forget 7 awful years of absolute mediocre presence and constant mistakes being made.
any rational human being would understand this could easily be another small good run of form and not temporary, so until wenger does something that shows he's actually changed (this summer would be a good starting point) and the team do something spectacular, only then will we give him the credit he deserves. 4 months of good football when we've had 7 years of crap is not the call to our prayers.
wenger has done NOTHING out of the ordinary this season; we were out of all cups in march as usual, same defensive mistakes at the beginning of the season (as usual), neglected signing key players again (striker for example), and at the same time the board gave us a double whammy of a price increase and asset stripping to cope with. you think 10 good games makes up for all that? pfft.
but i guess this is exactly what the board want; a good run of form so they can milk every penny from fans like you for the next few years, selling you this 'vision' of our current crop being 'the future' and one day 'fulfilling our dreams'.
more like an endless cycle of crap that will never end under the current regime.
You make it sounds like the last 7 years has been unremittingly awful. If you only judge it by trophies I suppose but there have been loads of great moments and football in the last 7 years. This isn't 'a small good run of form'. Since October only Utd have won more points than us. It's hardly a few good games.
to me it has.
same mistakes made? yes
mistakes neglected? yes
faith in an awful youth project? yes
playing players out of position? yes
no trophies? yes
paying substandard players too much? yes
milking the fans for their money? yes
being a shambles defensively? yes
only since xmas has many of these changed, but if you're expecting fans to forget 7 years of mediocre times for a couple of months of good football, then you're mistaken.
Nobody is saying they're being optimistic without caution though. Not even Wenger.
I just don't get how we have seen a very good run of form, and people can't be a little optimistic about the future....
It's cautious optimism from all concerned, which will turn into more faithful optimism IF we do the right things from now until August.
I'm still wary of this side faltering before the end of the season, believe me. We're not assured of anything yet.
But what is the harm in giving credit to the team and to the manager for what they have achieved recently? Surely being congratulatory is better than whacking them at every opportunity?? You can see how they're feeling off the fans just recently....and in turn we've fed off some very good performances.
Just enjoy it for fucks sake.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
but we've seen it before.
a good run of form and the team looking good, only to be followed by capitulation. believe me i'm enjoying it, im celebrating every goal like a madman, but that doesn't reduce the underlying worry in my stomach regarding the direction of our club. and its a justified worry imo.
you say you cant believe 'how we have seen a very good run of form, and people can't be a little optimistic about the future', well i can flip that and say 'i cant believe how we have seen another good run of form, and people all of a sudden are overly optimistic about the future'.
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