You guys are missing my point a bit. I was typing angry so bare with me...

Basically I just dont see where he fits in the Arsenal side, for me he doesnt have the qualities we need from a midfield player in our set up. He's not like Song, who isnt the qickest but is strong and can pass can get passed players using strength. he's not an Arteta, who makes up for his poor pace and lack of agility with positioning and does have a shot on him, he's not like Wilshere or Rosicky who can turn and spin off markers with close ball control or let the ball roll pass them and dip the shoulder etc to find the pass or drive forward with purpose. The guy is basically just a british denilson.

Next season, how far down the pecking order is he going to be if Wenger does the right think and brings more quality into the midfield??

We have no place for him, he needs to go play for Sunderland, under Hughes, that will do him good. It's not happening with us.