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Thread: Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

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    I don't think Young is particularly a special player, I just feel as though he's the right kind of player for United and they will get the best out of him IMO.

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    Ferguson doesn't do individuals. He makes teams, and that's the difference.

    Young has been purchased to be a part of that team, and will be drilled as such.

    I don't think half their players are that special. They just work in a unit which fucntions as SAF sees fit.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Theo Walcott has scored more goals and created more chances this season than in A Youngs best. He's already the real deal IMO. Would SAF have got better use out of either? Certainly, but I'd rather have a 21 year old Walcott than an Ashley Young who's now in his prime.

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    Under Ferguson you watch how quickly Young develops, especially his all round game (including tracking back) which Ferguson places a lot of emphasis on. Yes, there are many better wingers out there than Young, but he is talented, and at United I think he'll be forced to work on his weaknesses and become a more all round footballer.

    Compare that to Arsenal in recent years, and Wenger's dismal record of actually developing players (something that he's renouned for) Players like Denilson, Diaby, Bendtner have barely progressed at all, and show the same flaws that they did at the start of their careers (admittedly the players themselves need to take a lot of responsibility for that) Denilson is still dreadful at tracking off the ball runners. I imagine under Ferguson he'd either have learnt to improve the defensive side of his game or he'd be out of the club a lot earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Ferguson doesn't do individuals. He makes teams, and that's the difference.

    Young has been purchased to be a part of that team, and will be drilled as such.

    I don't think half their players are that special. They just work in a unit which fucntions as SAF sees fit.
    That's dead right. Ferguson, like people such as Brian Clough and Bill Shankley in the past, know how to take a team of mostly not too special players and make them perform as a team and in the long grind of a season, that pays dividends. What we are missing is a couple of key players in the team who, while not the most skillful in the world, are able to produce the glue to bring the whole thing together. I sometimes think that while Wenger must know that we need some 'glue' players he is waiting for one who can do that AND be a top skill player, when getting the catalyst players is more important than worrying if they are only second best in the skills area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Theo Walcott has scored more goals and created more chances this season than in A Youngs best. He's already the real deal IMO. Would SAF have got better use out of either? Certainly, but I'd rather have a 21 year old Walcott than an Ashley Young who's now in his prime.
    Firstly he plays for a stronger side who create a lot of chances and have a lot of possession, it makes sense that Walcott has more goals and assists...especially as Villa had a bad season.

    Young IMO is more devastating than Walcott, on form in a top team he'll tear defences apart, he's not just about speed, his crossing is also excellent.

    As has been said Ferguson builds team and Young is just another ingredient, he's something they lack and Ferguson has been quick to fill the gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Ferguson doesn't do individuals. He makes teams, and that's the difference.

    Young has been purchased to be a part of that team, and will be drilled as such.

    I don't think half their players are that special. They just work in a unit which fucntions as SAF sees fit.


    This

    I think Theo & quite a few of our young talents would be further ahead in their development under SAF, a lot further ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Theo Walcott has scored more goals and created more chances this season than in A Youngs best. He's already the real deal IMO. Would SAF have got better use out of either? Certainly, but I'd rather have a 21 year old Walcott than an Ashley Young who's now in his prime.
    Ashley Young will probably dislodge Theo from the National team IMHO. I think he'll develop into a very very good player under SAF.

    I like Theo and think he has more potential than Ashley Young but for over the next few years I think Young will develop into the more efficient player.

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    Hmmm. A worrying topic. Are our players improving under Wenger? The evidence, largely, would appear not.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng View Post
    Hmmm. A worrying topic. Are our players improving under Wenger? The evidence, largely, would appear not.
    Some are, some aren't. Same with every team really.

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