There is no firm statement from the club saying he's not for sale, we've just said they've been in touch and we've been waiting for them to make a bid. Barca have been making noise about not being able to pay £40m for him. If they raise the money, Cesc is gone.Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Thats a bit different from what you said though. Were not negotiating with them. We have said that they have made a verbal offer for him which we turned down. We all know about that
That is part of negotiating. They've been in contact with the club and now have come back with an offer. We've turned the offer down but that doesn't mean we won't sell Cesc to them. When they tried to contact us we should have told them to f... off. Last season, Barca weren't talking about money, they were saying we didn't want to sell and there was no talk of a fee.Thats a bit different from what you said though. Were not negotiating with them. We have said that they have made a verbal offer for him which we turned down. We all know about that
I agree, for all the big noise coming out about strengthening the team it looks like we're just doing the usual. Flogging our best player and buying over-priced and untested kids and nobodies. We are competing against mid tables clubs in the transfer market, none of the top clubs want our targets - if you exclude the never going to happen stuff coming out about players like Benzema and Falcao.which is right up our alley... as opposed to shelling out 50mil on two renowned classy players to supplement what we've already got and to show we mean some fu*cking business.
however, this will be too risky -- we'd rather buy unknows and let them make their name with us a season or so then "reluctantly" flog them off; we then hit the REPEAT BUTTON.
Our song should be, "Whoooo the fuck, who the fucking hell are you....?"
Cesc is probably worth £60 - £65mill when you consider his existing contract, the value he'll have to Barcelona in terms of one of the very few viable replacements for Xavi and, of course, the fact he's one of the top players in the world. That's why we'll let him go cheap just so the grubby cunts in the boardroom can make more announcements about how they are much admired and loved by banks and property developers.
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Exactly! I dont understand how many on here and the papers just value Cesc between 35-40 million Euros!! This Sanchez kid at Udinese looks good but had one good season while Cesc has had 6 top seasons at Arsenal and is a world cup & Euro Cup winner. Plus he is a CM and he will be at the top of his trade till he hits 32-33 (assuming injury doesnt kill his career). If Torres after having one and a half good seasons can be 50 million quid, Cesc definitely has to be more! If we get anything less than 50 million quid for him, its a bad bit of business.. PERIOD!
Some might argue that its not good to keep an unhappy player. Well, he seems to be an intelligent chap. If he can see in the papers that Barcelona value him like shit, why is he still so desperate to go there?! If I were him, I'd want to be valued the right amount. I'd rather have him join Madrid for his sake and also to fuck Barca up! IF he still wants to be a petulant fuck, bench him and show that no one is bigger than the club! Arsenal FC has been around for more than 100 years, players will always come and go.
I think Barca reckon they have some sort of divine right to get him for what they want because we took him from under their noses. In this current market, Cesc is worth twice what they have offered, if they don't understand that they should fuck off because even though Cesc wants to go, his statement the other week suggests that he understands why we're not caving in and he's not going to force a move.
I personally hope Barca get their shit together and offer something like 40m+, because I'd prefer it if we sold him.
Alternatively, hopefully Real Madrid offer something stupid.
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Problem is Cesc wants to go to Barca so that woul be in their favour. Just wish AW would grow a pair stop treating this lad liek a loyal son and do whats best for the club not the player.I think Barca reckon they have some sort of divine right to get him for what they want because we took him from under their noses. In this current market, Cesc is worth twice what they have offered, if they don't understand that they should fuck off because even though Cesc wants to go, his statement the other week suggests that he understands why we're not caving in and he's not going to force a move.
I personally hope Barca get their shit together and offer something like 40m+, because I'd prefer it if we sold him.
Alternatively, hopefully Real Madrid offer something stupid.
What do you mean?
This is the problem - there seems to be no easy solution to this. Sell him, we weaken the team - though some debate this. Or there will be criticism over the value- if Barca valuations are the basis for the deal. And we are to an extent hampered by Barca seemingly being the only destination he would move to.
If we keep him - it could be against his will and consequently affect his performance, or he could be on his way to being a crock and an expensive liability.
There are a multitude of other variables making any action by the Club fraught with risks.
That said, it could be argued that the Club have handled it very well already as we are only in this position as a result of getting his signature on a LT contract meaning we can take a risk on him for up to another two seasons without having to give in to an undervaluation.
The Cesc Saga, and a saga is what it has most definitely become is fraught with risks,
1) if we decide to hold on to him, I worry whether it will be detremental for the club, I dont see Cesc putting in the string of quality performances that we have been used to seeing him put in (last season not included) - I believe this will affect the team in an area which we are fragile enough as it is - spirit
2) a failure to inspire will affect Cescs ability to be a captain, something some have doubted - RvP would get the nod from the current group or Verms
3) by keeping hold of Cesc we lose out on a bit of a windfall in transfer funds, as it is quite obvious that money needs to be spent on the team, it is now obvious that Cesc alone is not enough to compete and first and foremost we need to spend on defence but even that may not enough - we may not have enough money for much else
5) if we sell Cesc we could pay for the defence and then look to improve other areas, it was obvious that we can score and win games without him - selling Cesc for 30-40 mil pounds not euro would allow us to build a more balanced TEAM
Would it be a crazy thought to get in Cahill or Samba and sell Cesc to provide to pay Everton what they want for Fellain? we would still have money for more and tbh I think a motivated Nasri would do well in Cescs position
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